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    Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    Simple question: Should the US government play in role in the health of the people of the United States? Why or why not?

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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Simple question: Should the US government play in role in the health of the people of the United States? Why or why not?
    Yes. The gov't showed no hesitation in jumping on the "sins" of alocohol and tobacco use, yet did so in the usual strange ways that gov't does these things. Obesity is usually caused by simply consuming more calories than are expended (a portion of the excess is stored as body fat), and it is nearly impossible (and undesirable) to tax all sources of calories, so PPACA would have been a perfect opportunity for gov't to "do something" about obesity. PPACA allows only two factors to be considered for the establishment of a "private" medical care insurance policy premium amounts, age and smoking; adding obesity to that list would effectively serve as an obesity "tax".
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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    Yes, it should shoot all its fat members.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    The biggest thing is just information, making sure people have the information they need to make right decisions, and the way they set up cities can help, and the way the government is involved in the agricultural industry.

    Other than those indirect means ... no.

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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    The government subsidizes unhealthy food, making junk food cheaper than healthy food. So cutting back on these subsidies should be a must, in my opinion. Either that, or replace these subsidies with subsidies on fruits and vegetables.

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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    Processed food has made America a nation of fat asses. Americans love processed foods. If you want to really reduce healthcare costs, then drastically reduce America's dependency on fake foods laden with excitoxins and preservatives. Heart disease and diabetes 2 can be reversed with dietary changes. No pills! No surgery! Real food can prevent, reverse and/or cure many allergies and diseases.

    Who do you think will when that battle for government support? The People or Monsanto, Kellog, Coca Cola, Nestles, drug manufacturers?

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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Simple question: Should the US government play in role in the health of the people of the United States? Why or why not?
    I voted no.Now if the government wanted to make mandatory in public schools I would support that. Its not the food that makes people fat its the sedimentary lifestyle that makes people fat.Our grandparents and generations before them ate stuff that was way unhealthier than what we are eating today, but they didn't sit inside all day watching tv, playing video games or on the computer.
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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    I think so. It's fast becoming a public health issue, and the costs of American's increasingly sugar/carb-rich diets are being externalized to our healthcare system.
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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    I think the government should try harder to prevent obesity in young children. I don't think young children can really pick a healthy diet and that it is up to the parents to do so. If the parents have an obese child (excusing medical problems causing obesity) then I think the government should step in and help the child somehow. When a person is 10 or under it is the parents responsibility to be sure their child is healthy; the child can't think for himself properly, he's not yet mature enough.

    The government needs to stop subsidizing junk food companies and they should subsidize foods that are healthy for people.

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    Re: Should the government play a role in preventing obesity?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think so. It's fast becoming a public health issue, and the costs of American's increasingly sugar/carb-rich diets are being externalized to our healthcare system.
    Why is cost so important that people are willing to give up their liberty to protect against it?

    I notice it more times than not always tries to focus on little groups too as if it doesn't come around the bush back to the people that support taking others liberty away. Nothing like not learning from history I guess.
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