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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    But it's not about uneven distribution, it's about not distributing enough to people with talent. The wage gap that I am most against is the typical distribution where an inventor got a $30,000 bonus and his corporate Masters got $300,000,000 for the patent that wouldn't have existed without him. Just like the workers, the investors were only secondary factors in creating that wealth. The Investor Inferiority objective of homo erectus is achieved if this point is ignored and opposition to Rand is only focused on giving lower-class moochers more of the wealth created by homo sapiens.
    In one of her many internal contradictions, Rand has no problem with inherited wealth. Her pathetic attempt to rationalize it was that the character of a man determines success, regardless of inherited wealth or other unearned advantages. This is an attempt to counter a valid criticism of Randianism by appeal to practical results. She claims that in practice, those who are unworthy of wealth will squander it and and those who are worthy would succeed with or without inherited wealth, so will all balance out in favor of try deserving egoist a. This is of course probably false by observation of reality, and also internally contradictory, as elsewhere Rand bemoans elite "second handsets" who somehow manage to coast onthe success of heroic egotists despite her assertion that this is impossible.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Presuming it was dictated and accurately recorded, he wrote it. Who wrote the Koran?

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    As a general statement to those who are trying to drag this debate off topic with pointless posts containing nothing but trolling, Tucker being chiefest among those responsible for such tangential trolling posts, I won't be sinking to your level and responding any further. Keep the debate on topic, which is Rand, Hubbard, and any purported relationship betwee their teachings. Cluttering up this thread with posts full of trolling, blathering personal attack posts is unwelcome.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    We will NOT be dragged down by hooligans!

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Presuming it was dictated and accurately recorded, he wrote it.
    The New Testament is not considered by anyone to have been dictated by Jesus, though. Jesus is merely quoted in it. There is a ton of text in there that definitely did not originate with the man that was Jesus. At best, the legends state that the non-red words contained in the new testament were inspired by god, but not dictated by him.

    Who wrote the Koran?
    That one's a little different because the legend associated with that text is that Mohammad was recording the dictations of God. I believe Mohammad wrote the Koran, but those who believe in that legend will assume that the text contained within that book did originate with God, thus they would feel that God wrote that text.

    Jesus didn't have anything to do with the creation of the bible, at least whilst he lived. Allegedly, he could walk on water, turn water into wine, raise the dead, and turn a few scraps of food into a bounty that can fed hundreds, so it only follows that he could have simply snapped his fingers and written a book himself had he really wanted one to exist. That same logic is why I disbelieve the Mohammad legend. If you can create an entire universe from scratch, you certainly don't need a ghost writer/secretary for your autobiography.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    I understand the New Testament. But, Mohammad couldn't write. So now you're telling me that a guy who was incapable of writing actually wrote something. I thought words mattered.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    As a general statement to those who are trying to drag this debate off topic with pointless posts containing nothing but trolling, Tucker being chiefest among those responsible for such tangential trolling posts, I won't be sinking to your level and responding any further. Keep the debate on topic, which is Rand, Hubbard, and any purported relationship betwee their teachings. Cluttering up this thread with posts full of trolling, blathering personal attack posts is unwelcome.


    Right. I'm the problem because I made an on-topic comment about the OP and you came in and responded to my on-topic point in a way that triggered teh tangential line of discussion.

    Saying I'm the problem here is honestly the dumbest thing I have ever seen you say.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I understand the New Testament. But, Mohammad couldn't write. So now you're telling me that a guy who was incapable of writing actually wrote something. I thought words mattered.
    Who said Mohammad couldn't write?
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Who said Mohammad couldn't write?
    Dude couldn't/didn't write. He just went around saying the Koran over and over, and other people wrote it down. That's the story I heard.

    I think your description of the NT leaves much to be desired as well, but this is the more interesting point.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Machiavelli did it better. And, of course, Nietzsche. And Dostoyevsky.

    But Anthem is not bad.
    In Anthem, people were forbidden to use I, just as today the femininnies forbid us to use he for "he or she" and demand that we use the collectivist they when referring to a singular. More obviously, we are forbidden to use you in the sense of talking back to authorities. For example, in response to "To get a good job, get a good education" we are tamed out of saying "Who are you to tell me? I say to you, if you want talented people in our good jobs, pay us up front to learn what you need, because you are just welfare dependents on the wealth we create for you." Too much today, we hear "they" as some command from God, as in "they want us to do this" especially the commandments coming from Rand's plutocrat heroes. She would only allow us to use I in defiance of the government, but wouldn't allow self-interest against the overreaching self-indulgence of the rich.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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