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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

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    You have hereby demonstrated that your opinion is worthless.
    And yet you keep responding to it.

    Interesting.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You have hereby demonstrated that your opinion is worthless.
    Ah yes, disagreeing with you makes anything I have to say worthless.

    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Religion is a scam. The way the Catholic Church runs, anyone associated with it ought to be insulted by the very fact they continue to be a member.
    You miss the beauty of the forest because of the ugliness of some of the trees.

    I know, these days is seems like many of the trees are ugly, twisted versions of 'Christianity'... but I'm an optimist.

    I'm a Catholic. I don't listen to Rome and think they are behind the times. Hopefully God will set them straight. The priests and nuns that I've known were some of the most thoughtful, selfless and generous people I've ever had the privilege of meeting.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    You simply cannot compare the founder of a religion like Hubbard to the founder of a philosophy like Rand. A philosophy is a system of ideas that are generally based on reason. Randianism is explicitly stated by Rand to be based on reason. Therefore you can attack it on rational grounds. Religions are not within the realm of rationality. Basic courtesy dictates that one should be polite and tolerant of other religions, even when one finds their tenets to be offensive for whatever reason.

    Comparing a religion to a philosophy is an apples to oranges comparison.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You simply cannot compare the founder of a religion like Hubbard to the founder of a philosophy like Rand. A philosophy is a system of ideas that are generally based on reason. Randianism is explicitly stated by Rand to be based on reason. Therefore you can attack it on rational grounds. Religions are not within the realm of rationality. Basic courtesy dictates that one should be polite and tolerant of other religions, even when one finds their tenets to be offensive for whatever reason.

    Comparing a religion to a philosophy is an apples to oranges comparison.
    WTF is Randianism? Its Objectivism. She abhored the notion of "Randists" or blind sheepish followers, cultists and the like.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    WTF is Randianism? Its Objectivism. She abhored the notion of "Randists" or blind sheepish followers, cultists and the like.
    "Objectivism" is a misnomer. It would be more accurate to call the philosophy "Subjectivism," since the only value it holds is the value of one's self.

    I call it "Randianism" as an accurate descriptor of what it is. It's a dogmatic system of thought set forth by Ayn Rand.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You miss the beauty of the forest because of the ugliness of some of the trees.
    It's funny that so many people seem to think the forest is beautiful but can't explain why.

    I know, these days is seems like many of the trees are ugly, twisted versions of 'Christianity'... but I'm an optimist.
    That's because Christianity, *ALL* of Christianity, is ugly and twisted. Whether or not you can find people within it that you like is irrelevant, the fact remains that Christianity, and every other religion out there, is entirely unable to demonstrate that it's most basic teachings or beliefs are factually true. Believers accept things for which there is no objective evidence, simply because it is emotionally satisfying.

    Great, you feel good, but do you give a damn whether any of it is actually factually so?

    I'm a Catholic. I don't listen to Rome and think they are behind the times.
    According to many then, you're not a Catholic. Of course, I don't think you care, nor should you, I just always find it funny that people can declare themselves to belong to a particular group, then disagree with everything that makes said group matter.

    Hopefully God will set them straight.
    There's no evidence that God exists, so chances are low.

    The priests and nuns that I've known were some of the most thoughtful, selfless and generous people I've ever had the privilege of meeting.
    And this makes the religion worthwhile how? You have thoughtful, selfless and generous people, who would be exactly the same if they were part of the church or not, and that somehow makes the church true? What about all the priests that have molested children? Does that influence your beliefs in the truthfulness of the Catholic Church at all?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Objectivists and Scientologists are both cultish and operating on a false premise and not truth. That is the common thread of the juxtapostion in the OP.

    Freakin' funny clip below.

    http://www.cracked.com/video_18426_a...eholder5D.html
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