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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why bother then, if you have so much disdain for them?
    For the same reason people debate racists and the like. They're not going to change their minds, but it's not for them, it's to discredit their arguments for those watching. And trust me, it's not at all hard to discredit the claims of the religious.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    For the same reason people debate racists and the like. They're not going to change their minds, but it's not for them, it's to discredit their arguments for those watching. And trust me, it's not at all hard to discredit the claims of the religious.
    The reason to debate racists is because racism is a bad thing, in and of itself. Do you really think believing in God is truly as bad, on it's own, as racism?
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The reason to debate racists is because racism is a bad thing, in and of itself. Do you really think believing in God is truly as bad, on it's own, as racism?
    And the reason to debate religion is because religion is a bad thing, in and of itself. Our beliefs inform our actions, when our beliefs are faulty, as the beliefs of the religious are, then their actions are faulty. Keep in mind, I'm talking only of the people who actually believe this stuff, not the probably majority who only claim belief because they think it's expected of them. When one's beliefs are actually delusional, when they think there are imaginary friends in the sky that they have to please, when they think that the only life that matters is the one that happens after you die, not only do they harm themselves but they harm their children and society in general. Religion, by it's very existence in this country, harms the advancement of society.

    In fact, I'd probably characterize religion as worse than racism, especially since the major cause of racist beliefs is religion itself.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Nice victim-mentality conspiracy theory. Irrational as all hell, but nice nonetheless.
    So it's a conspiracy theory to think Atheists who obsess over God aren't really Atheists. Righteos.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As a True Atheist™, I feel it my duty to say that when atheists do this, it's nearly always within the context of Christians enforcing legislative policy that affects them, and which is based solely on their interpretation of the bible. The True Atheist™ rarely cares when Christians practice their faith in a way that does not infringe on the freedoms of others. When this occurs the resulting reaction really does become "Like whatever."
    Name the last time your hated Christians forced you to do anything

    What a bizarre statement. What does this even mean?
    You wouldn't understand, you're not a true atheist.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    So it's a conspiracy theory to think Atheists who obsess over God aren't really Atheists. Righteos.
    Nobody is obsessing over God. In fact, if theists would keep all their irrational crap to themselves, keep it out of the schools, keep it out of the political arena, atheists would have no reason whatsoever to ever bring it up.

    Want to know who to blame? Look in the mirror.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And the reason to debate religion is because religion is a bad thing, in and of itself. Our beliefs inform our actions, when our beliefs are faulty, as the beliefs of the religious are, then their actions are faulty. Keep in mind, I'm talking only of the people who actually believe this stuff, not the probably majority who only claim belief because they think it's expected of them. When one's beliefs are actually delusional, when they think there are imaginary friends in the sky that they have to please, when they think that the only life that matters is the one that happens after you die, not only do they harm themselves but they harm their children and society in general. Religion, by it's very existence in this country, harms the advancement of society.
    If it weren't for religion, millions of people like you would be dead already to murder, so show some respect.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nobody is obsessing over God. In fact, if theists would keep all their irrational crap to themselves, keep it out of the schools, keep it out of the political arena, atheists would have no reason whatsoever to ever bring it up.

    Want to know who to blame? Look in the mirror.
    See, you just can't help yourself. You keep obsessing over God. You're not a true atheist, you're a Godhater. Big difference between the two.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    So it's a conspiracy theory to think Atheists who obsess over God aren't really Atheists. Righteos.
    What on Earth does that have to do with what you said previously?
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    If it weren't for religion, millions of people like you would be dead already to murder, so show some respect.
    So that's why religion is so OVER-REPRESENTED in prison populations and atheism so UNDER-REPRESENTED, huh?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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