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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Know why the gospels are written differently?

    Matthew wrote to the Jews and was primarily concerned with illustrating the fulfillment of OT messianic prophesy in Jesus.

    Mark wrote to the Romans and emphesized actions over words. He often uses the words 'immediately', 'soon after', 'right away' and such to give the piece a fast-moving tone. He concentrated on Jesus' actions more than words.

    Luke was a physician and wrote to the Greeks. He emphesized logic and reason, and he supplied supporting details (through research) that are not found in the other gospels.

    John's primary concern was proving the divinity of Jesus, and so his gospel is not so much a variation directed at a particular audience as it is a different macro-focus.



    Just sayin'

    Just sayin' my ass, you are dead on. I mean we have no way of being 100% sure, but most biblical scholars agree this is most likely the case, but not Tucker, lol. Pun intended.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Just sayin' my ass, you are dead on. I mean we have no way of being 100% sure, but most biblical scholars agree this is most likely the case, but not Tucker, lol. Pun intended.
    It makes a lot of sense when you think about the styles involved.

    To me, that implies that there is some chance that they were all working from an unknown pre-existing text which they then tailored to fit a specific target demographic. That would explain the similarities with the red bits (since one would assume a direct quote would have to have already been written down somewhere in order to be accurately quoted by four different people, in four different places, at four different times).
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Matthew wrote his gospel first, and the others most surely had access to his writing. Paul wrote his epistles before the gospels were written (and the apostles clearly had access to Paul's writing, as specified by Peter), with the possible exception of Matthew. John was the last to write, completing 'revelations' at ~100ad.

    We might also note that Mark was a boy when Jesus lived. Likely, he is the young man who fled without his robe at Jesus' arrest in the book of Mark, as this detail is omitted from the other gospels and fits Mark's age and spiritual conviction at the time of the arrest. It is probable that the accounts of Jesus in Mark's gospel were dictated by Peter, as Mark served as sort of a translator for the early church and assisted Paul in his writings (having travelled with Paul and Barnabas, and having been specifically requested to visit Paul in Rome). After an argument following Paul's first missionary journey and report to Jerusalem, Paul took Silas on his second missionary journey to Asia Minor and Barbabas took Mark to Cyprus. IIRC, Mark is related to Barnabas.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It makes a lot of sense when you think about the styles involved.

    To me, that implies that there is some chance that they were all working from an unknown pre-existing text which they then tailored to fit a specific target demographic. That would explain the similarities with the red bits (since one would assume a direct quote would have to have already been written down somewhere in order to be accurately quoted by four different people, in four different places, at four different times).
    Well here is my perspective...

    We know how inaccurate eyewitness testimony can be. What is amazing, even the slight differences of people etc in the Gospels, you still end up and the same place story wise.

    That is pretty amazing to me. I also enjoy the different perspectives as I am sure many others do as well.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We will NOT be dragged down by hooligans!
    We have been dragged down by hooligans (Tucker, I'm lookin' at you), but at least we got a Bible study lesson.

    Back to Rand, Hubbard, Nietzsche and Machiavelli? What about the anti-venom, 'Crime and Punishment' (Dostoevsky) and 'Master and Man' (Tolstoy)?


    ps. No one even noticed that I wrote Trotsky instead of Tolstoy (earlier), in reference to short stories. Buncha illiterate bastards.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No one even noticed that I wrote Trotsky instead of Tolstoy (earlier), in reference to short stories. Buncha illiterate bastards.
    I've actually never read Tolstoy so I gues I'm guilty as charged on that one. What do you expect from a dirty hooligan, though?
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Master and Man is like 10 pages. Go do it.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Master and Man is like 10 pages. Go do it.
    Literature.org, here I come.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    While you are right that some people consider the mere suggestion that god might not exist as a personal insult, the problem here is that your delivery of that accurate message is often clouded by the fact that your approach belittles the belief in God by comparing it to a belief in leprechauns.
    Because it is *IDENTICAL* to believe in leprechauns. There is absolutely no difference whatsoever.

    A less belittling comparison would be to use something like ghosts. The same person who calls me a Godhater® for pointing out the possibility that God might not exist or the bible might not be accurate would probably find it absurd to call me a ghost hater for the same thing, but wouldn't find the comparison of God's existence to the existence of ghosts to be as derogatory.
    It likely wouldn't matter, they'd still call you a Godhater no matter what you do because their imaginary friend means more to them than rationality.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because it is *IDENTICAL* to believe in leprechauns. There is absolutely no difference whatsoever.

    It likely wouldn't matter, they'd still call you a Godhater no matter what you do because their imaginary friend means more to them than rationality.
    So you undermine your own points for the sole purpose of being offensive to those who believe? How does that benefit you?
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