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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Wow, would be great if that was true, it's just 4 books by 4 anonymous authors that contain massive contradictions.
    I'm atheist and I disagree. Having studided the Bible, I find objections of "contradictions" to be sophmoric and ignorant of significant Bible motifs. But we should get back on topic.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    4 Books by 4 different point of views telling the same story pretty much authenticates the story.
    So if I, and two other people, read the Great Gatsby and rewrote it in a very similar, but not exact fashion, would that authenticate the Great Gatsby?

    Even the tossed aside coptic stories have the exact same quotes.
    Even if Jesus is quoted accurately in the text, it wouldn't mean that everything said in the bible about him is true, nor does it mean he would have agreed with everything they said.


    Why is this being talked about in an Ayn Rand topic?
    Is this topic simply about Ayn Rand? I thought it was about Rand and Hubbard using fiction to promote their ideologies. Anyway, this particular line of discussion (or at least my part in it) started when Guy Incongito brought it up as a rebuttal to my point about Hubbard and Rand being similar in their use of fiction to promote their various philosophical views.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Wow, would be great if that was true, it's just 4 books by 4 anonymous authors that contain massive contradictions.
    I'm sure that's how the Godhaters view it.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So if I, and two other people, read the Great Gatsby and rewrote it in a very similar, but not exact fashion, would that authenticate the Great Gatsby?
    You Godhaters are assuming they collaborated.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm atheist and I disagree. Having studided the Bible, I find objections of "contradictions" to be sophmoric and ignorant of significant Bible motifs. But we should get back on topic.
    Hey, a true atheist. What a rare sight.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    You Godhaters are assuming they collaborated.
    Godhaters.

    Where did I assume that they collaborated? You realize that the three people re-writing the great gatsby wouldn't need to collaborate in my analogy.

    The problem is that you assume anyone pointing out a logical possibility is a "godhater®" instead of being rational and acknowledging accurate points that don't coincide with your illogical beliefs.

    Oh, and by the way, I'm not referring to the belief in God right there when I say illogical beliefs. I'm referring to the belief that since there were four authors who wrote similar things, it means that the story is definitely true. That's illogical. My point about the Great Gatsby illustrates it. I don't think believing in god is an illogical belief, though. Just thought I'd clarify that before you jumped to yet another illogical conclusion.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    I'm sure that's how the Godhaters view it.
    No, that's how people who approach things skeptically and critically view it.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Godhaters.
    Yeah Godhaters. True atheists like ecofarm over here don't obsess over God like you guys do.

    True Atheists are all, "Like whatever."

    Godhaters are all, "****ING CHRISTIANS! YOU MORONS!"

    Also, a true Atheist would recognize the literary value of a matter-of-fact 2,000 year old story in a sea of strange barely recognizable classical/Roman prose/fable.
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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Yeah Godhaters. True atheists like ecofarm over here don't obsess over God like you guys do.

    True Atheists are all, "Like whatever."

    Godhaters are all, "****ING CHRISTIANS! YOU MORONS!"
    As a True Atheist™, I feel it my duty to say that when atheists do this, it's nearly always within the context of Christians enforcing legislative policy that affects them, and which is based solely on their interpretation of the bible. The True Atheist™ rarely cares when Christians practice their faith in a way that does not infringe on the freedoms of others. When this occurs the resulting reaction really does become "Like whatever."

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Also, a true Atheist would recognize the literary value of a matter-of-fact 2,000 year old story in a sea of strange barely recognizable classical/Roman prose/fable.
    What a bizarre statement. What does this even mean?
    Last edited by Cardinal; 08-16-12 at 10:04 PM.

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    Re: Ayn Rand is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Godhaters.
    Makes about as much sense as whining about "leprechaun-haters".
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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