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If you had the choice of only one weapon...

A disaster hits your area and you have 100 rounds. What weapon to bring?

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Initially, I was thinking along the same lines, but it just doesn't have enough knock-down power if the **** gets thick.

I'm not too concerned about stopping power. If you come for me, I'll be in the woods. You don't want to **** with me there, because I'll just draw you in, wound you, and let nature take care of the rest.
 
I go with the AK47, loading 762x39 soft-nose. 100 rounds of 762 doesnt weigh much.

Mine is kind of an odd ball AK, a bit shorter in bbl and stock than many, but I've hit targets out to 400m with it.

I came within a hair of saying .308 or 30-06 bolt rifle, for the long range accuracy, but in my AO its heavily wooded hills and you can rarely have line-of-sight at anything much beyond 100m.

In survival situations (unless you live on the Plains in the midwest maybe) most scenarios where the OPFOR is more than 25m away call for stealthy retreat, not combat. For close combat, the AK is hard to beat, and it is far more rugged than the AR and requires little maintenance.

If I have a 100 round ammo limit, then yes I need to be cautious about blowing ammo through a semi-auto... and that's fine, I prefer aimed fire to spray and pray anyway, but if I need that 30 round capacity in a bad fight I won't have to worry so much about reloads or working a bolt or lever.

AK is the workhorse of survival.
 
you have a scoped bolt gun-why the artificial limits.

Because anyone with a decent rifle with a scope who has even minimal exp gives an artificial advantage. At least that is why I see it that way.

and you can review the FBI ballistic tests-the 545 and the 5.56 create superior wound channels over the much slower 30-30

A disaster does not mean we are going to war. If I was going to war I would be carrying my Saiga .308 with my Leapold scope. The scenario was never anbout killing people you added that because that's how you see it. I have no problem with that, but it is NOT what I intended.

and no one recommends a lever action-its not as solid as a a bolt of pump action and much slower than a pump or a semi auto

You leave out a whole lot. The lever is smaller and lighter with the 3030 round being light weight while giving good hunting bullistics. Again you are on some I will just kill people kick. This has nothing to do with going to war are killing people. A war is not a disaster, it's a war.

and you cannot use high performance bullets due to the tubular magazine

Since when do I need hollow points etc to take down a hog or dear etc???

Again, we are not going to war. Jeeeh hehe.
 
Because anyone with a decent rifle with a scope who has even minimal exp gives an artificial advantage. At least that is why I see it that way.

I disagree. If one doesn't know how to zero in a scope, minute of angle, or the difference between 1/4 and 1/8th minutes they might find that scope highly ineffective at most ranges.
 
I disagree. If one doesn't know how to zero in a scope, minute of angle, or the difference between 1/4 and 1/8th minutes they might find that scope highly ineffective at most ranges.

Disagree all you want. My pole, my rules. No scope.
 
The weapon is not really what matters. It is all about appearance. If you carry yourself as someone not to be messed with, people will leave you along or ask to be with you. If you act paranoid and scared, then people are gonna eat you alive even if you're walking around with an M249.
 
3030 lever action rifle. But I must have one of those circular cocking handles. Also. if anyone has a 12 year old boy named Mark that I could have custody of, please pm me.
 
Remember the concerned person stocks up on ammunition,
the Prepared person has reloading supplies.
Ammunition would be the new money! Be nice to be able to make your own.
 
3030 lever action rifle. But I must have one of those circular cocking handles. Also. if anyone has a 12 year old boy named Mark that I could have custody of, please pm me.

shall we call you CHUCK

I don't think his rifle was a 30-30 given the rounds it held

more likely one of those pistol cartridge jobs. they make a lever action with that loop still
 
Remember the concerned person stocks up on ammunition,
the Prepared person has reloading supplies.
Ammunition would be the new money! Be nice to be able to make your own.



I have 5 MECs-one for each American Skeet gauge-and an extra 12 one for making specialty loads. the main 12 is hydraulic. I have twin Dillon 1050 commercial presses-one for 9mm one for 45 and a pair of 550s-one set up for 40 and the other 38 but I can load 556, 308, 45 LC on the 550s
 
A s a disaster hit your area and it was about survival, period. You also have only 100 rounds of ammo and enough food and water for a day or 2 at most. Which weapon would you bring?

I would have to go with something that can take a beating as it may be awhile. Simple to maintain and good for defense or hunting. I also want something light weight that will not waist to much ammo.

In the end I went with the lever 3030. It's light with a good rate of fire easily controlled and good for general defense or hunting.

I've been a hunter all my life ... and considering a weapon would be used for both hunting and self defense .. I would still go with My trusty 12ga double barrel. I realize the ammo is heavy compared to most rifle but I would put up with that .. I feel confident that I can get within range of most big game to effectively harvest one (at least in my area) and for use as self defense ... well 12ga double barrel with 00 buckshot is lethal and down right scary when someone is looking down the business end of one .
 
12 gauge semi-auto or M1 30.06.
 
12 gauge semi-auto or M1 30.06.

for HOME defense a 12 G is hard to beat especially a BENELLI or a SAIGA

the MI garland is a great weapon but for the same weight and much better ergonomics you can have the equally reliable FN FAL in 20 rounds of 762 NATO or a Rock River or ARMALITE AR 10
 
for HOME defense a 12 G is hard to beat especially a BENELLI or a SAIGA

the MI garland is a great weapon but for the same weight and much better ergonomics you can have the equally reliable FN FAL in 20 rounds of 762 NATO or a Rock River or ARMALITE AR 10


I love M1's and FAL's but Holey Hannah they are heavy to lug around.
 
I love M1's and FAL's but Holey Hannah they are heavy to lug around.

yeah I have several CMP ones including a couple that have the new stocks and Krieger criterion barrels on them

nice rifles
 
Mosin Nagant.
 
A disaster hits your area and you have 100 rounds. What weapon to bring?

What weapon would I bring or what weapon would I rely on? Hands down a milspec AR15 with a 1/7 rifle twist and 62 grain bullets; some FMJ penetrator rounds and some soft point rounds.

This is an excellent choice for self defense and hunting if necessary. Handguns are restrictive in terms of range and terminal ballistics beyond a fairly close range. Ditto for shotguns.

Other action types of long guns like bolt actions and pumps are OK if that's all you have but this thread implies you have a choice. Others chose revolvers; are you kidding me? And who is dumb enough to bring a knife to a gun fight?

This is something I prepared for after having been through three hurricanes and living near a nuclear reactor in South Florida before moving to a safer part of the country, related to potential disasters. And yes, this is one reason I moved from the south Florida area, to avoid potential disasters, natural or otherwise.
 
Mosin Nagant.

I hope you mean the carbine w/ the bayonet on a hinge bcuz a full size 9130 is quite huge n heavy, would get to be a pain to carry, and kicks like a 12 gauge.
 
I hope you mean the carbine w/ the bayonet on a hinge bcuz a full size 9130 is quite huge n heavy, would get to be a pain to carry, and kicks like a 12 gauge.

Get a sling.

Recoil does not bother me.
 
Alright sir, you can pee further than me.

I don't think I can pee further than you.


And yes, I give up, I was being facetious about the Mosin. I just wanted to get people talking about it ... lol.


In all honesty, all these specifics accuracy (the accuracy needed in this case will NOT be that needed of a canadian sniper shooting someone 2000 yards away or some such ****) and sight attachments and all this nonsense means nothing in a real the **** hits the fan situation. The availability of ammunition is very important, the weapon's ability to kill the type of game that is available to you is also important (so talking about killing elk for me is a non-point). The reliability of the weapon is also important, will it fire without jamming, minimal maintenance is always helpful.
 
I don't think I can pee further than you.


And yes, I give up, I was being facetious about the Mosin. I just wanted to get people talking about it ... lol.


In all honesty, all these specifics accuracy (the accuracy needed in this case will NOT be that needed of a canadian sniper shooting someone 2000 yards away or some such ****) and sight attachments and all this nonsense means nothing in a real the **** hits the fan situation. The availability of ammunition is very important, the weapon's ability to kill the type of game that is available to you is also important (so talking about killing elk for me is a non-point). The reliability of the weapon is also important, will it fire without jamming, minimal maintenance is always helpful.

Oh I know, but the corrosive ammo? Unless you're carrying a cleaning kit, it doesn't matter that it wont jam, given enough time it wouldn't be safe to fire.

As a Mosin owner myself, why get people talking about that rifle?
 
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