View Poll Results: A disaster hits your area and you have 100 rounds. What weapon to bring?

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  • AR-15 Semi-Auto 5.56 or AR-10 in .308

    9 21.43%
  • AK-47 or in 7.62 to .308

    7 16.67%
  • 3030 to .308 lever action rifle

    2 4.76%
  • 3030 to .308 bolt action rifle

    5 11.90%
  • Any revolver from .38 to 454 Casull

    5 11.90%
  • Any Auto Pistol from 9mm to .50 cal

    5 11.90%
  • Knife or Other: Please Explane.

    8 19.05%
  • None

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Thread: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    How would a weapon help you survive when a natural disaster hit?
    A temporary increase in crime is associated with natural disasters. More guns = less crime.

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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Being armed would bring more attention to yourself, wouldn't it? If someone sees that you're armed, they're going to think you have something to defend/hide.
    It does draw more attention, but avoiding attention isn't part of everyone's strategy. If my neighbors and I formed a hasty watch group, we would *want* potential looters to see that we were armed so that they would go somewhere else.

    Remember, looting is a felony, and lethal force is authorized to stop a felony, so when law-enforcement can't otherwise be used, looters be-ware.

    In many ways a pistol on the hip is perceived as an inherent symbol of authority. This can be useful to organised watch groups or deputized citizens in guiding small crowds. Folks are just more likely to accept what your telling them to do.
    Last edited by Jerry; 08-13-12 at 03:52 AM.

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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Remember, looting is a felony, and lethal force is authorized to stop a felony, so when law-enforcement can't otherwise be used, looters be-ware.
    Is it a forcible felony? I think you'd need castle doctrine.
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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    If I had a high perch to stay in, then definitely a bolt action rifle with only 100 rounds. Makes you place your shots a little more carefully when you know you only have one round. However, If I was on the ground, probably a handgun of some sort.
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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    100 rounds is pretty low. Back in the day I carried 6+1, six mags in my pouches and one in the M16. Depending on the mags issued that was quite a bit of ammo. While many never beens and one way range rangers make a thing about ammo weight, soldiers don't. You carry what you are issued, no real thought to the weight, your life depends on it so you hump it.

    Most military ARs used by grunts these days are equipped with optics. Iron sights are good but not as versatile. I resisted dropping irons, but these days I would recommend optics, even simple red dots over irons.

    The military trains combat soldiers on tactical ranges measured in meters, not yards. Yard ranges are for competitions geared toward the civilian side of shooting. Pop-up targets so engagement times are limited to try and simulate the real world better than hoist and paste. Ask combat soldiers just how realistic the stress and timing is of the pop-up system and most would laugh, rarely does the enemy expose himself long enough or steady enough to develop a good sight picture. (Civilians are a whole 'nother story, which is why most experienced soldiers smile when one way range rangers prattle on about armed citizens keeping the gubmint in check.) Last I checked the Army trains out to 300m with the M4 for quals. 600 yards is what Army snipers (7.62x51) train to, about the only Army soldiers still using yards.

    Anyway, the threat will not be far off and let you know he is the one in the crowd you need to sight in on like a one way range. He or she will be mixed in the mass of survivors trying to walk out with you. (If you think you will safe and comfy at home when a natural disaster odds are you will be at work or on the road) Even if you are at home you still have to stay awake and have 360* over watch. If the 'masses' swarm you can get all but one, and still have a losing proposition.

    Jerry probably has the best idea, not a lone wolf with one weapon but a group holding a small area where survivors and the injured can find refuge until outside help arrives.

    My weapon of choice would be my AK. I only own the one, only use the one. Had it for over 2 decades and used it in all kinds of weather. It is an extension of me. Unless the badguys develop a huge case of stupid they won't line up for one way range well placed shots, so tactics trump X's. I doubt there will be too many duels

    That said I've carried the Mattel toy enough that to this day I pick one up as if I never laid it down. My advice would be pick one and drill, dry fire, carry it around until you forget you have it and can deploy it without any thought to how you do that. Put dummy rounds in the mag to do immediate action drills to clear a stoppage. Run your mags hard, study what causes them to fail and maintain those feed lips. When the 30 round mags were first issued to us the feed lips were the weak link so we soon started carrying pliers to bend them back in, many 'popular' which means cheap or overhyped in the gun rags, magazines can have thin or weak feed lips.

    If you plan on running lone wolf style with only one weapon if a disaster hits- good luck

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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have coated optics on one of my AKs

    I have a Gen 4 ASN passive night vision scope on an M4 and a TIU flip up unit on a Rock River AR 10
    And yet what you own is irrelevant. No optics, stop trying to cheat, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and you might talk to people who have actually seen people shot with the Soviet round. the afghans claimed the rounds were poisoned due to the extreme lethality of the 53 WASP bullet.

    your premise was the most versatile weapon going. a lever in 30-30 isn't close

    (and yeah I have a couple centerfire Lever actions as well)
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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It does draw more attention, but avoiding attention isn't part of everyone's strategy. If my neighbors and I formed a hasty watch group, we would *want* potential looters to see that we were armed so that they would go somewhere else.

    Remember, looting is a felony, and lethal force is authorized to stop a felony, so when law-enforcement can't otherwise be used, looters be-ware.

    In many ways a pistol on the hip is perceived as an inherent symbol of authority. This can be useful to organised watch groups or deputized citizens in guiding small crowds. Folks are just more likely to accept what your telling them to do.
    I think this is key. the OP doesnt cite what the scenario actually is. Terrain matters. Circumstance matters. Surroundings matter.

    I would also think to make the scenario realistic you have to go with stock on hand. You cant wish your way into a "weapon of choice".

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    Re: If you had the choice of only one weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    A s a disaster hit your area and it was about survival, period. You also have only 100 rounds of ammo and enough food and water for a day or 2 at most. Which weapon would you bring?

    I would have to go with something that can take a beating as it may be awhile. Simple to maintain and good for defense or hunting. I also want something light weight that will not waist to much ammo.

    In the end I went with the lever 3030. It's light with a good rate of fire easily controlled and good for general defense or hunting.
    Not enough information given for making that choice. First you must assume no notice of the "disaster" so your choices are limitted to those firearms that you already own. If travel is by foot that makes a big difference as well, weight is then a serious factor so the pistol likely wins out. Assuming that your mission is to simply leave that "disaster" area, then speed of travel outweighs defense so take your easily concealable pistol and exit by motor vehicle, if you make it out OK then at least you are not stuck trying to conceal that long gun. ;-)
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