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Thread: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    No, but it entitles you to say you have directed and been in charge of the military...
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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    If our gov't was run correctly, politicians wouldn't need much expertise in economics, agriculture, healthcare, etc. However, the Commander in Chief would still need the expertise provided by serving.
    Switch out 'correctly' with 'irresponsibly' and I might agree.

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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Not an easy poll as the poll is in present tense but your question here is in past tense. To the quoted question above I would answer "No", having been the POTUS does not in and of itself let you honestly claim you had "served in the military".

    However, being the CinC is, by it's very definition, military service. And your last option is false on it's face as well. Obviously the CinC is an active member of the military.

    Put this in a private perspective. Can the CEO of a steel company claim he is a steel worker? Obviously not - BUT can he claim he works in the steel industry? Of course he can.
    That's about as dumb as saying pushing on a wall is moving the entire Earth.
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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Making those decisions is service. He's in the chain of command. Disrespecting him is an offense, as a CO. He is "in" the military, and bears terrible responsibility.

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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    No. Being in the military means you take a bunch of ****, for low pay.
    IDK about other guys, but I am VERY thankful to have the paycheck I get. A lot of Americans don't have the paycheck and medical insurance I have. I am very blessed. I am also very thankful to taxpaying citizens for giving it to me.
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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Making those decisions is service. He's in the chain of command. Disrespecting him is an offense, as a CO. He is "in" the military, and bears terrible responsibility.
    So you believe the POTUS is serving "in" the military by being POTUS?
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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    IDK about other guys, but I am VERY thankful to have the paycheck I get. A lot of Americans don't have the paycheck and medical insurance I have. I am very blessed. I am also very thankful to taxpaying citizens for giving it to me.
    Beats the hell outta unemployment or welfare don't it?
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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    I'd say its fair to say they served their country, but I think its silly to try to claim they were in the military.
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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Interesting question.
    Certainly being potus bears very little resemblance to any one else's military service. Hard to compare regular military service to being the potus and reach the conclusion that they are similar enough to be the same thing on that basis.
    But, technical things can be quite convoluted and arcane to the point of appearing all but arbitrary.

    Never considered it before.
    Perhaps it depends on the context.
    Iirc, the potus is considered the civilian check on the military by some folks.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Does being the President mean you have served in the US Military

    Just as the CEO has no idea what it is like to work in the mailroom, the CiC has no idea what it is like to be a soldier.
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