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    Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Well, it is being reported that Romney will announce Ryan tomorrow morning. While it is entirely possible that they are screwing with the media, it seems kinda unlikely and that Ryan will be the VP pick. Do you think the pick will help Romney, hurt him, have no real effect?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    If DONE RIGHT (which I would suspect at this point they know they have to do), then I think it helps Romney.


    But there is a big margin of error there, and no plan survives contact with the enemy. We will see how good Obama is at overcoming a Romney campaign run on an actual platform v "I'm not the guy with the 8% unemployment". There is alot of room there to run on Mediscare and the general notion that any big change done by Republicans is designed to help the rich at the expense of others.

    I would say...... somewhere between 55/45 and 65/35 to help Romney v hurt him.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    If he does it, he's just playing right into Obama's hands. Making it all about taxes and trickle down. Obama wins if that is what the election is about and that is all Ryan is about.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    I doubt it will have very much effect. VP's usually have very little positive effect except for a small boost in their home state, which I doubt will be enough for Romney to win Wisconsin anyway. At the same time, even though I view him as less safe of a pick than Rob Portman for instance, I don't think its likely he'll hurt the campaign either.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If DONE RIGHT (which I would suspect at this point they know they have to do), then I think it helps Romney.


    But there is a big margin of error there, and no plan survives contact with the enemy. We will see how good Obama is at overcoming a Romney campaign run on an actual platform v "I'm not the guy with the 8% unemployment". There is alot of room there to run on Mediscare and the general notion that any big change done by Republicans is designed to help the rich at the expense of others.

    I would say...... somewhere between 55/45 and 65/35 to help Romney v hurt him.
    Sorry, but its a bit ridiculous to say that Romney can run a campaign on "actual performance" as he has zero experience at POTUS. Granted he has a resume, but he has to convince people that success in the minor leagues translates to superior major league performance sufficient to transplant a guy with actual major league experience.

    Now its ok to believe its so, but when it comes to qualifications to be POTUS, Romney has ZERO actual experience and Obama has 3.5 years of actual experience.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    My granddaddy once took home an old birdbath a widow woman from church gave to him. We met over at his house to help lift it off the truck and put it in the yard wherever he wanted it. We got it positioned just right and my grandmama and great aunt declared it good and worthy, a thing of beauty for all to see. They never really liked it.

    Later as we were sitting in the house talking and having coffee, my youngest brother, who was 6 or 7 at the time, peed on the birdbath. We saw him from the family room window. He peed all over it. LOL!

    Nobody ever liked that birdbath but my granddaddy. My brother peeing on it didn't change a damn thing.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry, but its a bit ridiculous to say that Romney can run a campaign on "actual performance" as he has zero experience at POTUS. Granted he has a resume, but he has to convince people that success in the minor leagues translates to superior major league performance sufficient to transplant a guy with actual major league experience.

    Now its ok to believe its so, but when it comes to qualifications to be POTUS, Romney has ZERO actual experience and Obama has 3.5 years of actual experience.
    Hey, that's not fair. Romney did manage to enact Obamacare in MA. So at least he's got that... Heh.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    It would hurt him and the entire push for fiscal responsibility. Ryan is one of the smartest members of the House, holds a seat in the House that is needed to keep the left out, and is a little too young for a VP. He should pick Christie. He needs some balls in his campaign and it wouldn't hurt the Tea Party's hold on the House.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry, but its a bit ridiculous to say that Romney can run a campaign on "actual performance" as he has zero experience at POTUS. Granted he has a resume, but he has to convince people that success in the minor leagues translates to superior major league performance sufficient to transplant a guy with actual major league experience.

    Now its ok to believe its so, but when it comes to qualifications to be POTUS, Romney has ZERO actual experience and Obama has 3.5 years of actual experience.
    I'm no Romney fan but I believe 4 years as a governor is a MUCH more applicable experience than 3 1/2 years as a Senator. No one can run against an incumbant POTUS and say "I have more Presidential experience than this guy" so that's a fallacy anyway. Romney has a wealth more of managerial experience than then Senator Obama did. So lets not argue about experience on this one. I think thats an argument that makes no sense. IMO, being Governor of a state is THE best preparation for the office of the President. Its basically the same job, just on a smaller scale. With all that being said, I still think Romney sucks, so whatever lol.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    It would hurt him and the entire push for fiscal responsibility. Ryan is one of the smartest members of the House, holds a seat in the House that is needed to keep the left out, and is a little too young for a VP. He should pick Christie. He needs some balls in his campaign and it wouldn't hurt the Tea Party's hold on the House.
    Further, I would LOVE to see a VP debate between Biden and Christie. Come on, tell me that would not be awesome. Two blow hards going at it. Christie would be calling Biden an idiot, Biden would tell him he's a really big fu***** guy, it'd be great!!!
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