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Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?


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Invoking the hated name of the great satan Marx. Thats funny you doing that. Not in a knee slapping sort of way but in a pathetic sad sort of way. The fact is that inheritance taxes were around 2,000 years ago and one was instituted by the Roman emperor Augustus. The demon Karl Marx would not saunter onto the world stage for 18 centuries to be demonized and reviled by the right.

Nobody can support the death tax because it does not exist. There is no tax on death.
no, no there isnt
 
Isn't he the dude that wanted his wife to go to swinger/sex clubs? :ssst:

I think you are thinking about the guy who was going to beat Obama in Illinois until some corrupt dem judge ordered sealed divorce record ACCUSATIONS released
 
no, no there isnt

another bit of dishonesty-we call it a death tax because death is the operative action that causes the tax to come into play

you know that and so does the other lover of that tax
 
I think you are thinking about the guy who was going to beat Obama in Illinois until some corrupt dem judge ordered sealed divorce record ACCUSATIONS released

Did you really just cast an ACCUSATION to defend the guy?
 
another bit of dishonesty-we call it a death tax because death is the operative action that causes the tax to come into play

you know that and so does the other lover of that tax
why you continue to be so dishonest on what it is....the act of death , of dying, is not taxed, one more time turtle...YOUR DEATH IS NOT TAXED...
 
Did you really just cast an ACCUSATION to defend the guy?

no I was pointing out the politician named Ryan you were thinking about was the guy who got knocked out of the illinois senate race by the actions of dem operatives in the media and the judiciary

You can look it up
 
why you continue to be so dishonest on what it is....the act of death , of dying, is not taxed, one more time turtle...YOUR DEATH IS NOT TAXED...
Your property is taxed at death--hence, death tax.
 
why you continue to be so dishonest on what it is....the act of death , of dying, is not taxed, one more time turtle...YOUR DEATH IS NOT TAXED...

are you unable to read what I posted? the act of death is not taxed-it is the act of death that causes the tax to come into play

your dishonesty on this issue is amazing but I guess it is to be expected when one is so bitter towards those who are more industrious and prosperous than you are
 
are you unable to read what I posted? the act of death is not taxed-it is the act of death that causes the tax to come into play

your dishonesty on this issue is amazing but I guess it is to be expected when one is so bitter towards those who are more industrious and prosperous than you are
correct turtle, the act of death is not taxed, i'm glad to see you have finally seen the error of your ways...if the act of death is not taxed, then there can be no 'death tax'....
 
no I was pointing out the politician named Ryan you were thinking about was the guy who got knocked out of the illinois senate race by the actions of dem operatives in the media and the judiciary

You can look it up

But you said the judge was corrupt. :lol:

I know it's a different Ryan.

Paul Ryan couldn't get this:

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Best single best TurtleDude post of all time!!!!!!

I am tempted to make it my sig.
lol, isnt it though? i will be saving it for future discussions when he regresses and starts calling it a 'death tax' again...lol
 
why you continue to be so dishonest on what it is....the act of death , of dying, is not taxed, one more time turtle...YOUR DEATH IS NOT TAXED...

Of course the act isn't, no one is suggesting it is. You can't tax an act, you tax money/property.

lol, isnt it though? i will be saving it for future discussions when he regresses and starts calling it a 'death tax' again...lol

How is calling it the Death Tax inaccurate?
 
lol, isnt it though? i will be saving it for future discussions when he regresses and starts calling it a 'death tax' again...lol

Absolutely - this is a keeper for the archives. Maybe everyone should use it as their signature for a month or so?
 
Other than my poking fun at the poll options, I believe it's a doomed odd couple. A VP pick should never be more interesting than the actual candidate and Romney's flub of announcing the next president is a foreshadowing if nothing else, a peak into a private conversation he had with Ryan that was so ingrained on his mind that he blurted it out at a crucial step in his bid for presidency.
 
Of course the act isn't, no one is suggesting it is. You can't tax an act, you tax money/property.



How is calling it the Death Tax inaccurate?

So why call it something that it is not?
 
Of course the act isn't, no one is suggesting it is. You can't tax an act, you tax money/property.



How is calling it the Death Tax inaccurate?
because it is not a tax on your death
 
correct turtle, the act of death is not taxed, i'm glad to see you have finally seen the error of your ways...if the act of death is not taxed, then there can be no 'death tax'....

It is what it was always called an Inheritance Tax a tax on money that little rich kids didnt do a damn thing to earn except be born with a gold spoon sticking far out of the proverbial buttocks.....the inheritance tax only kicked in after a million dollars 98% of americans could never pay it....but of course like everything else they need to whine about everything...while they have TAKEN everything...lol....
 
So why call it something that it is not?

How is anyone doing that? Do you honestly think that the proponents of the term think or want others to think the absurdity that the physical act of dying is taxable?

OR does the term Death Tax, for ALL WHO HEARS IT, clearly indicate that your property/wealth will be taxed upon dying?
 
because it is not a tax on your death

The term Death Tax doesn't suggest that its your death being taxed, just like a Sales Tax doesn't mean the physical act of trade is being taxed, only the MONEY of parties involved.

And since NO ONE thinks that it means your death is being taxed, why continue repeating that strawman?

Could it be that you don't like the term because then people understand whats happening and might be opposed to it? Its far more understandable than the term "Estate Tax" given how many people don't even know what constitutes an Estate.
 
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And since NO ONE thinks that it means your death is being taxed, why continue repeating that strawman?

Another graduate of the Turtle Mind Reading School it would appear.

The term Death Tax doesn't suggest that its your death being taxed

So why label it as such then?
 
How is anyone doing that? Do you honestly think that the proponents of the term think or want others to think the absurdity that the physical act of dying is taxable?

YES. That is exactly the false impression it creates. And since everybody dies eventually, we all better oppose such a thing while we have the chance - they hope is our reaction.

And we have the statements of Faris and Luntz which say so.
 
Close. The US Military is the linchpin for the global economy, and prevents much death.

What about all the deaths the US Military causes through war, and fighting two wars at once is very costly and stressful to the US budget?
 
Another graduate of the Turtle Mind Reading School it would appear.

Another post opening with a personal attack from DP's least honest debater.

Please cite a source that shows that ANYONE is under the impression that the physical act of dying can possibly be taxed?

So why label it as such then?

See post #245

YES. That is exactly the false impression it creates. And since everybody dies eventually, we all better oppose such a thing while we have the chance - they hope is our reaction.

And you accuse me of playing the mind reader? :roll:

More people understand death than those who understand what constitutes an estate. No one is calling anything something that its not, except your lot who'd use prefer to use a term fewer people will get.

And we have the statements of Faris and Luntz which say so.

Source? And who the heck is Faris?
 
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Anybody who wants to destroy medicare/medicaid will never help. He is too punky to run. He used to get away with a lot of bs now he has to face the people who wrote the book of bs
 
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