View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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  • It will help Romney

    51 27.42%
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    84 45.16%
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    38 20.43%
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    13 6.99%
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    correct turtle, the act of death is not taxed, i'm glad to see you have finally seen the error of your ways...if the act of death is not taxed, then there can be no 'death tax'....
    Just like the act of income is not taxed so its not an income tax right?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Anybody who wants to destroy medicare/medicaid will never help. He is too punky to run. He used to get away with a lot of bs now he has to face the people who wrote the book of bs
    Or we can just let medicare/medicaid destroy us, which one's it gonna be? That's the decision that needs to be made. And whether you agree with the guy or not, at least he's not scared to throw the Golden Calf that is medicare on the table. Its better than the budget that the Senate presented.......oh wait........no it's better than the one President Obama's team came up with..........oh wait it didn't even make throught the Dem controlled Senate. As it is, the budget Ryan proposed is the ONLY one that has passed muster in either the House, Senate, or executive branch since President Obama took it over. But the House is the do nothing portion of Congress according to the libs
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    because it is not a tax on your death
    You guys still talking about the death tax? Maybe if you are so concerned about fraudulent names for things, you might turn your attention to the Affordable Care Act.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    from Lachean

    More people understand death than those who understand what constitutes an estate. No one is calling anything something that its not, except your lot who'd use prefer to use a term fewer people will get.


    this is from the Wikipedia article (previously cited and linked) on the Estate tax in the USA


    Well-known Republican pollster Frank Luntz wrote that the term "death tax" "kindled voter resentment in a way that 'inheritance tax' and 'estate tax' do not"

    No mind reading is necessary. It is clear beyond doubt that Luntz is willing to employ a dishonest label because it culls resentment among the very citizenry that he would need to further the repeal of the inheritance tax.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Just like the act of income is not taxed so its not an income tax right?
    Do you even read the words you write and think if they make sense?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you even read the words you write and think if they make sense?
    LOL, I figured you would respond with something like this. You always do when you're stumped.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Or we can just let medicare/medicaid destroy us, which one's it gonna be? That's the decision that needs to be made. And whether you agree with the guy or not, at least he's not scared to throw the Golden Calf that is medicare on the table. Its better than the budget that the Senate presented.......oh wait........no it's better than the one President Obama's team came up with..........oh wait it didn't even make throught the Dem controlled Senate. As it is, the budget Ryan proposed is the ONLY one that has passed muster in either the House, Senate, or executive branch since President Obama took it over. But the House is the do nothing portion of Congress according to the libs
    What about the unpaid war? You want to hide from it, don't you? medicare saves peoples lives war takes them. At least medicare pays as it goes.

    Where is your morality lie? with the gods of war?

    How conveinent it is to kill harmless people. Do s your conscience bother you?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    LOL, I figured you would respond with something like this. You always do when you're stumped.
    So the obvious answer is NO you do not think about what you just wrote.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    What about the unpaid war? You want to hide from it, don't you? medicare saves peoples lives war takes them. At least medicare pays as it goes.

    Where is your morality lie? with the gods of war?

    How conveinent it is to kill harmless people. Do s your conscience bother you?
    LOL, you have no idea who you're talking to. There are quite a few people on this site, of the total opposite end of the political spectrum, that would vouch for my anti-war stance. Also, I've never killed a harmless person. Seeing as how it's obvious you don't know how the COIN environment works, you should probably keep your uneducated opinion to yourself. There are very few instances in the current wars we have fought where an American servicemember can take the first shot without a definite threat to him such as a weapon pointed at him, etc. My conscience is clear bro. So, are you going to dispute my previous post or just spew forth more vitriol to hide the fact that you don't know what you're talking about?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So the obvious answer is NO you do not think about what you just wrote.
    Sure haymarket, whatever you say
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