View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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Thread: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Of course the act isn't, no one is suggesting it is. You can't tax an act, you tax money/property.



    How is calling it the Death Tax inaccurate?
    So why call it something that it is not?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Of course the act isn't, no one is suggesting it is. You can't tax an act, you tax money/property.



    How is calling it the Death Tax inaccurate?
    because it is not a tax on your death

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    correct turtle, the act of death is not taxed, i'm glad to see you have finally seen the error of your ways...if the act of death is not taxed, then there can be no 'death tax'....
    It is what it was always called an Inheritance Tax a tax on money that little rich kids didnt do a damn thing to earn except be born with a gold spoon sticking far out of the proverbial buttocks.....the inheritance tax only kicked in after a million dollars 98% of americans could never pay it....but of course like everything else they need to whine about everything...while they have TAKEN everything...lol....

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So why call it something that it is not?
    How is anyone doing that? Do you honestly think that the proponents of the term think or want others to think the absurdity that the physical act of dying is taxable?

    OR does the term Death Tax, for ALL WHO HEARS IT, clearly indicate that your property/wealth will be taxed upon dying?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    because it is not a tax on your death
    The term Death Tax doesn't suggest that its your death being taxed, just like a Sales Tax doesn't mean the physical act of trade is being taxed, only the MONEY of parties involved.

    And since NO ONE thinks that it means your death is being taxed, why continue repeating that strawman?

    Could it be that you don't like the term because then people understand whats happening and might be opposed to it? Its far more understandable than the term "Estate Tax" given how many people don't even know what constitutes an Estate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post

    And since NO ONE thinks that it means your death is being taxed, why continue repeating that strawman?
    Another graduate of the Turtle Mind Reading School it would appear.

    The term Death Tax doesn't suggest that its your death being taxed
    So why label it as such then?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    How is anyone doing that? Do you honestly think that the proponents of the term think or want others to think the absurdity that the physical act of dying is taxable?
    YES. That is exactly the false impression it creates. And since everybody dies eventually, we all better oppose such a thing while we have the chance - they hope is our reaction.

    And we have the statements of Faris and Luntz which say so.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Close. The US Military is the linchpin for the global economy, and prevents much death.
    What about all the deaths the US Military causes through war, and fighting two wars at once is very costly and stressful to the US budget?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Another graduate of the Turtle Mind Reading School it would appear.
    Another post opening with a personal attack from DP's least honest debater.

    Please cite a source that shows that ANYONE is under the impression that the physical act of dying can possibly be taxed?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So why label it as such then?
    See post #245

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    YES. That is exactly the false impression it creates. And since everybody dies eventually, we all better oppose such a thing while we have the chance - they hope is our reaction.
    And you accuse me of playing the mind reader?

    More people understand death than those who understand what constitutes an estate. No one is calling anything something that its not, except your lot who'd use prefer to use a term fewer people will get.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And we have the statements of Faris and Luntz which say so.
    Source? And who the heck is Faris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Anybody who wants to destroy medicare/medicaid will never help. He is too punky to run. He used to get away with a lot of bs now he has to face the people who wrote the book of bs

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