View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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  • It will help Romney

    51 27.42%
  • It will hurt Romney

    84 45.16%
  • It will have no real effect on the outcome

    38 20.43%
  • Other, please explain

    13 6.99%
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Thread: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    No, what TD says was an accurate description of the tax you'd rather be called "Estate Tax" because then its much less clear.

    I'm tired of your Frank Luntz word games, it is what it is.
    Baloney.
    Worse - yesterdays baloney ready for the downward swirl in the porcelain bowl.

    Tell us how many people die each year and pay a tax on that death without any transfer of wealth to another person.

    btw - Frank Luntz is the one playing word games. That is why he did what he did and said so as I previously cited.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Baloney.
    Worse - yesterdays baloney ready for the downward swirl in the porcelain bowl.

    Tell us how many people die each year and pay a tax on that death without any transfer of wealth to another person.

    btw - Frank Luntz is the one playing word games. That is why he did what he did and said so as I previously cited.
    why do you frame the issue in such dishonest terms

    the death tax is called that because it doesn't apply until the owner of wealth has died

    you know that

    so why do yo pretend to frame the issue in a nonsensical way?

    why are you so in love with this tax that you get upset when it is called a less wholesome but equally accurate term?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you honestly believe most people do not know that the death tax is a popular description of that tax You love
    I really do not care what "most people" call anything. Every pastry chef in the land, every cook book in the land, every cooking show in the land, that describes a double yellow layer of batter with custard pudding in the middle and chocolate frosting the same way - its a BOSTON CREAM PIE.

    But its a cake just the same.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Isn't he the dude that wanted his wife to go to swinger/sex clubs?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do you frame the issue in such dishonest terms

    the death tax is called that because it doesn't apply until the owner of wealth has died


    Over 99% of Americans who die this year will never see it. So you want to define and place a label on a tax that is not defined by the more than 99% but by the less than 1%.

    Perfect Turtle Logic.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Invoking the hated name of the great satan Marx. Thats funny you doing that. Not in a knee slapping sort of way but in a pathetic sad sort of way. The fact is that inheritance taxes were around 2,000 years ago and one was instituted by the Roman emperor Augustus. The demon Karl Marx would not saunter onto the world stage for 18 centuries to be demonized and reviled by the right.

    Nobody can support the death tax because it does not exist. There is no tax on death.
    no, no there isnt

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Isn't he the dude that wanted his wife to go to swinger/sex clubs?
    I think you are thinking about the guy who was going to beat Obama in Illinois until some corrupt dem judge ordered sealed divorce record ACCUSATIONS released

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no, no there isnt
    another bit of dishonesty-we call it a death tax because death is the operative action that causes the tax to come into play

    you know that and so does the other lover of that tax

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think you are thinking about the guy who was going to beat Obama in Illinois until some corrupt dem judge ordered sealed divorce record ACCUSATIONS released
    Did you really just cast an ACCUSATION to defend the guy?
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another bit of dishonesty-we call it a death tax because death is the operative action that causes the tax to come into play

    you know that and so does the other lover of that tax
    why you continue to be so dishonest on what it is....the act of death , of dying, is not taxed, one more time turtle...YOUR DEATH IS NOT TAXED...

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