View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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Thread: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    To use a biblical illustration, Ryan is Aaron to Romney's Moses. Ryan is quicker on his feet and a specialist who understands and articulates financial issues as well as anyone in Washington. Romney is a manager who recognizes and applies talent but is more stumbling in speech and articulation.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I always wonder about people who spend so much time justifying the government taking more from OTHERS
    Well when they are standing there with their hand out, it must seem to be the best way to get someone to put something in it.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    To use a biblical illustration, Ryan is Aaron to Romney's Moses. Ryan is quicker on his feet and a specialist who understands and articulates financial issues as well as anyone in Washington. Romney is a manager who recognizes and applies talent but is more stumbling in speech and articulation.
    Well said sir.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and marx and other communists favored heavy death taxes. there is no dispute that those who hate private property and want an all powerful nanny state to gobble up more and more private property support the death tax

    those envious of the wealthy all support the death tax as well. there is no dispute about that either
    Invoking the hated name of the great satan Marx. Thats funny you doing that. Not in a knee slapping sort of way but in a pathetic sad sort of way. The fact is that inheritance taxes were around 2,000 years ago and one was instituted by the Roman emperor Augustus. The demon Karl Marx would not saunter onto the world stage for 18 centuries to be demonized and reviled by the right.

    Nobody can support the death tax because it does not exist. There is no tax on death.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Two questions: How does one enlist in the 'crusade?' And does membership come with any cool gear?
    I believe our mutual friend Turtle has applications and can even teach you the secret handshake and some nifty passwords. I don't know about cool gear but they do have a Scrooge McDuck Money Bin Gala every year so maybe there is some swag at that.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Invoking the hated name of the great satan Marx. Thats funny you doing that. Not in a knee slapping sort of way but in a pathetic sad sort of way. The fact is that inheritance taxes were around 2,000 years ago and one was instituted by the Roman emperor Augustus. The demon Karl Marx would not saunter onto the world stage for 18 centuries to be demonized and reviled by the right.

    Nobody can support the death tax because it does not exist. There is no tax on death.
    you can bury your head in the sand and pretend there is no death tax but everyone else understands what it is. it is the tax levied on the wealth of those who have already paid massive amounts of income tax when they DIE

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Well when they are standing there with their hand out, it must seem to be the best way to get someone to put something in it.
    this who suckle from the public tit have become used to others paying their way and have adopted a sense of entitlement to the wealth of others. Its much like a little chick demanding food from its mother. It is part of its nature

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you can bury your head in the sand and pretend there is no death tax but everyone else understands what it is. it is the tax levied on the wealth of those who have already paid massive amounts of income tax when they DIE
    You always get really desperate when you run out of any actual information to provide so you resort to the really lame EVERYONE KNOWS schtick. Its funny in the way that watching somebody slip on a banana and roll down the stairs is funny.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You always get really desperate when you run out of any actual information to provide so you resort to the really lame EVERYONE KNOWS schtick. Its funny in the way that watching somebody slip on a banana and roll down the stairs is funny.
    do you honestly believe most people do not know that the death tax is a popular description of that tax You love

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You always get really desperate when you run out of any actual information to provide so you resort to the really lame EVERYONE KNOWS schtick. Its funny in the way that watching somebody slip on a banana and roll down the stairs is funny.
    No, what TD says was an accurate description of the tax you'd rather be called "Estate Tax" because then its much less clear.

    I'm tired of your Frank Luntz word games, it is what it is.
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