View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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  • It will help Romney

    51 27.42%
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    84 45.16%
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    38 20.43%
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    13 6.99%
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    A simple wiki search reveals that Paul Ryan's district was carried by George W. Bush in 2004 and voted for Obama in 2008...there's not much evidence to support the idea that this district in particular is any more "Democrat" than it is "Republican," at least at first glance. But if you're privy to other information that supports your case that this is a "Democratic" district then please enlighten us.

    Wisconsin's 1st congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I said before that I don't think they'll win Mass or Wisconsin, and I highly doubt they'll win Florida because of all the seniors.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You know you really should contact the Romney campagn with those ideas, from the polls lately they could use the help. There's nothing I would like more than Romney?Ryan showing their true colors.
    Obama's win will become a landslide.
    I am sure pollsters are eager to the run the numbers on how Romney's polling after the VP announcement, so we'll get the actual results soon. Probably within a week, and the results will be heavily discussed, as usual.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I am sure pollsters are eager to the run the numbers on how Romney's polling after the VP announcement, so we'll get the actual results soon. Probably within a week, and the results will be heavily discussed, as usual.
    I'm betting that we learn soon that polls are liberal conspiracies.... Again.
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I'm betting that we learn soon that polls are liberal conspiracies.... Again.
    I wouldn't doubt if Romney doesn't get a bounce.... maybe, maybe he'll get a bounce after the RNC or maybe he'll never get bounce. Could you image Romney running this campaign with no bounce? I don't see him preforming well against Obama in the debates either.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I wouldn't doubt if Romney doesn't get a bounce.... maybe, maybe he'll get a bounce after the RNC or maybe he'll never get bounce. Could you image Romney running this campaign with no bounce? I don't see him preforming well against Obama in the debates either.
    Yeah, the debates are going to be a disaster for Romney... He barely made it through the primary debates, and those were against people who basically agree with his whole platform.

    I get the strong sense that Romney just basically feels that he deserves to be president. He went out and made lots of money like he was told he was supposed to and he always pulls the skin off his fried chicken... And so it's pretty much owed to him. And he just finds it so frustrating that people are making him jump through all these hoops.... Obama will make him melt into an angry, gaffe-a-rific, pool in the debates.

    He won't get a bounce in the polls. He might get a bounce in enthusiasm from his base, but I suspect he'll actually take a small drop in the polls in the immediate term. The real impact though is that he can no longer steer things off talk about taxes and trickle down. That is now permanently front and center. And that is the worst possible topic to have front and center for Romney.
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    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Too soon the tell. IMHO an up front boost then no difference.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Ryan allows Romney to drive an ideological argument, the same argument that Obama seems to want to make, but with less clarity about the labels.

    And in a battle between obviously liberal vs obviously conservative, the conservative should win.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    So if the US military runs the global economy and prevents death... lol
    Close. The US Military is the linchpin for the global economy, and prevents much death.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well now that is interesting because it is in direct contradiction to what I have thus far heard. I'll do some rooting around
    Alrighty, so.

    Over the coming days, you’re likely to hear all about how “purple” Paul Ryan’s home congressional district is. In past presidential races, Wisconsin’s blue-collar first congressional district was a solidly Democrat district until 1994; it was won twice by Bill Clinton. Yet in 2008, while Obama was pulling 66 percent of the vote in the City of Kenosha, 67 percent in Janesville, and 70 percent in Racine, Ryan received a solid 52 percent, 59 percent, and 45 percent in those same cities, respectively...

    Wisconsin redistricted in 2012 in a way that gave Ryan a slightly more solid GOP base with which to work. According to a memo recently distributed by pollster Gene Ulm, Ryan currently leads his Democratic challenger, former small-business owner Rob Zerban, by a 61 percent to 33 percent margin. This number almost matches the 61-32 favorable/unfavorable rating Ryan’s constituents give him....

    Mitt Romney currently leads Ryan’s home district by a 53 percent to 41 percent margin over Barack Obama...
    The first district has recently shifted to become more solidly GOP, but at least in 1992 and 1996 it voted Democrat at the Presidential level, and Democrats held the House seat from there until 1994.

    Obama carried Ryan's district in 2008 - though Ryan won handily as well with 64%, meaning that a significant portion of Obama voters split their ticket for him.

    It looks like the district did vote for Bush in 2004, but danged if I see who they voted for in 2000.

    either way, the point remains that Ryan isn't exactly from a solid-red district, and he's used to winning over large numbers of independents and moderate democrats.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Alrighty, so.



    The first district has recently shifted to become more solidly GOP, but at least in 1992 and 1996 it voted Democrat at the Presidential level, and Democrats held the House seat from there until 1994.

    Obama carried Ryan's district in 2008 - though Ryan won handily as well with 64%, meaning that a significant portion of Obama voters split their ticket for him.

    It looks like the district did vote for Bush in 2004, but danged if I see who they voted for in 2000.

    either way, the point remains that Ryan isn't exactly from a solid-red district, and he's used to winning over large numbers of independents and moderate democrats.
    That was all before his budget to enhance the top 2% at the expense of everyone else....you keep blowing past that ryans plan was rejected by most of america...TWICE...the CBO ripped it apart every economist said it was a candy store for the rich that put all the cost for their tax cut on the middleclass....you cant just ignore the truth and just talk about what you want it to be will

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