View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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    84 45.16%
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm no Romney fan but I believe 4 years as a governor is a MUCH more applicable experience than 3 1/2 years as a Senator. No one can run against an incumbant POTUS and say "I have more Presidential experience than this guy" so that's a fallacy anyway. Romney has a wealth more of managerial experience than then Senator Obama did. So lets not argue about experience on this one. I think thats an argument that makes no sense. IMO, being Governor of a state is THE best preparation for the office of the President. Its basically the same job, just on a smaller scale. With all that being said, I still think Romney sucks, so whatever lol.
    The problem here is that Romney has to run away from his record as governor or annoy the republican base.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, it is being reported that Romney will announce Ryan tomorrow morning. While it is entirely possible that they are screwing with the media, it seems kinda unlikely and that Ryan will be the VP pick. Do you think the pick will help Romney, hurt him, have no real effect?
    Right now there is a lack of enthusiasm for Romney among both conservatives (though not to the same extent as McCain) and independents. Going on the theory independents won't be excited enough to turn out for either candidate, it helps Romney to draw in more conservatives. However, there is a chance Ryan will actually provoke independents to vote Democratic due to the perceived eccentricies and failures of the Tea Party.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The problem here is that Romney has to run away from his record as governor or annoy the republican base.
    His problem, unlike President Obama, is that he doesn't embrace who he really is. President Obama lays it out there. He's a quasi-socialist, makes it known more and more everyday, and makes no bones about it. Romney should say, yes, I compromised with some Dems, but they were all I had. And that was a very different circumstance than this is. This President wants to say I would ruin the middle class, well, it can't get much worse than what it is. He says I would ruin it, he already has. So, that's "forward" for you. You can go "forward" and continue to ruin the middle class.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The problem here is that Romney has to run away from his record as governor or annoy the republican base.
    Seriously though, wouldn't you love to see Christie and Biden debate? That would be like a WWE match.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Mr. Romney, I have a new nickname for you.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    If he does it, he's just playing right into Obama's hands. Making it all about taxes and trickle down. Obama wins if that is what the election is about and that is all Ryan is about.
    This is the message that picking Ryan sends. More taking from the poor to give to the rich. Basically the question Romney is asking America right now is "How would you like another recession?" More jobs will go overseas. More homes will be foreclosed on. More "shared sacrifice" that will fall on the middle and lower classes. And more profits for the business elite.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    I am curious to know if this news is accurate myself.

    They keep saying that Portman's ties to the Bush Admin and economic policies will hurt Romney, and I could see that being the case. I think Portman seems similar to Romney in how he talks and gives speeches... not very energetic or exciting.

    I can also see how Ryan would hurt Romney, so I think Pawlenty would be a safer choice... but for some reason, he isn't getting much support from the establishment.
    Last edited by SheWolf; 08-11-12 at 02:18 AM.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry, but its a bit ridiculous to say that Romney can run a campaign on "actual performance" as he has zero experience at POTUS
    ........

    I'm going to assume you were just reading too fast; and missed that.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill
    We will see how good Obama is at overcoming a Romney campaign run on an actual platform
    Now its ok to believe its so, but when it comes to qualifications to be POTUS, Romney has ZERO actual experience and Obama has 3.5 years of actual experience.
    Romney has significantly more executive experience than Obama did when he ran to be President - and after 3.5 years of OJT, Obama hasn't demonstrated a particularly steep learning curve.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The problem here is that Romney has to run away from his record as governor or annoy the republican base.
    But he is doing both...

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    I will hurt Romney. With voting.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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