View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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  • It will help Romney

    51 27.42%
  • It will hurt Romney

    84 45.16%
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    38 20.43%
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    13 6.99%
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    His problem, unlike President Obama, is that he doesn't embrace who he really is. President Obama lays it out there. He's a quasi-socialist, makes it known more and more everyday, and makes no bones about it. Romney should say, yes, I compromised with some Dems, but they were all I had. And that was a very different circumstance than this is. This President wants to say I would ruin the middle class, well, it can't get much worse than what it is. He says I would ruin it, he already has. So, that's "forward" for you. You can go "forward" and continue to ruin the middle class.
    You know you really should contact the Romney campagn with those ideas, from the polls lately they could use the help. There's nothing I would like more than Romney?Ryan showing their true colors.
    Obama's win will become a landslide.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    read what you wrote again-it doesn't make sense

    and so what part of Paul's tax policy did you like?
    Again, individuals can get refunds from the IRS in excess of the taxes they paid. Somebody can even get thousands of dollars in a refund and pay zero taxes to the IRS.

    Paul's tax policy never seemed a central issue to his message to me, at least not in 2008. He wants to return to the gold standard and he doesn't like the Federal Reserve. His arguments about the Fed can be interesting at times or seem thought provoking, but those were never big issues to me. I wanted him to win the primary, and I would have liked to see him win a few states this time.

    As for his economic principles, while he is principled, I honestly don't believe if elected his policies would entirely go through the congress and house as he'd like. I always felt that way.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Oh btw there is no citation to the claim that the term "death tax" is a neologism as claimed by wiki. For all i know a far lefty put that phrase in there. Since anyone can edit that definition it is most likely an opinion by someone who worships the death tax. Nonetheless the term "death tax" does not even meet the definition of a neologism because even the IRS was using that term to refer to some estate taxes.

    according to that same article, Faris started advocating that conservatives refer to the estate tax as a death tax in the era when Newt was speaker-long before this board started but 15 years before the Yale Political Union debated

    RESOLVED: the Death Tax should be repealed. This took place shortly after Reagan was sworn into office making the date approximately February 1981. more than a decade before Faris was relevant

    I was one of the lead speakers on the affirmative

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    This pick will hurt Romney for one reason:

    The independent voter.

    Paul Ryan is way too far right to sway most independents.
    Paul Ryan has won seven elections in a Democrat district. The last time the people of Paul Ryan's district voted for a Republican for President was 1984.

    Woops?

    His stance on medicare, and social security make him a darling for the far right
    Well his courage and willingness to grab the third rail certainly earn him alot of fans; but call me curious - given that premium support for Medicare was first proposed under the Clinton Administration, are you arguing that Bill Clinton was a darling of the far right, or should have been?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is a rather simplistic view of the foreign policy. I don't believe in the almost complete isolationist position he advocated. I oppose lots of the handouts we give other nations and I cannot see why we have so many soldiers in Germany

    however I see a value in supporting some countries and I see a value of having a military presence in an area that has immense strategic value
    What is so scary about not intervening in the rest of the world and flexing military strength and presence constantly? You would think strengthening your own country at home, would be a better in terms of self sufficiency and showing the world strength. America killed Saddam and ended the Taliban under Bush, gave Iraq trillions of dollars and nearly financially collapsed. To want to continue on that path is ridiculous.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You know you really should contact the Romney campagn with those ideas, from the polls lately they could use the help. There's nothing I would like more than Romney?Ryan showing their true colors.
    Obama's win will become a landslide.
    You make the assumption that everyone is pleased with President Obama. The dude is entering Dubya level job approval bro. I honestly believe that if Romney would distance himself MORE from President Obama, he would be better. The starker the contrast, the better IMO. I'm not saying that because its what I want. I'm saying it because the polls show that. Everytime President Obama runs some attack ad making Romney look as sleazy as he is, Romney loses more votes. Everytime President Obama runs an ad that shows Romney supported similar policies that he did (Romneycare comes to mind), he loses more votes.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What is so scary about not intervening in the rest of the world and flexing military strength and presence constantly?
    umm.... collapse of the globally integrated economy accompanied with the deaths of potentially millions of innocents?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Paul Ryan has won seven elections in a Democrat district. The last time the people of Paul Ryan's district voted for a Republican for President was 1984.

    Woops?



    Well his courage and willingness to grab the third rail certainly earn him alot of fans; but call me curious - given that premium support for Medicare was first proposed under the Clinton Administration, are you arguing that Bill Clinton was a darling of the far right, or should have been?
    A simple wiki search reveals that Paul Ryan's district was carried by George W. Bush in 2004 and voted for Obama in 2008...there's not much evidence to support the idea that this district in particular is any more "Democrat" than it is "Republican," at least at first glance. But if you're privy to other information that supports your case that this is a "Democratic" district then please enlighten us.

    Wisconsin's 1st congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Well now that is interesting because it is in direct contradiction to what I have thus far heard. I'll do some rooting around

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    umm.... collapse of the globally integrated economy accompanied with the deaths of potentially millions of innocents?
    So if the US military runs the global economy and prevents death... lol

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