View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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Thread: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So now its my fault that you and some others here are not as educated and informed as you could be?
    you seem to assume that if some person has a position ANYONE ELSE who advocates something similar must be pawns parrots or clones of the person you mention

    that is beyond moronic

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you seem to assume that if some person has a position ANYONE ELSE who advocates something similar must be pawns parrots or clones of the person you mention
    In your case it fits like a glove and is perfectly apt. Faris & Luntz would be proud of you and give you a warm pat on the head and a "good boy".
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In your case it fits like a glove and is perfectly apt. Faris & Luntz would be proud of you and give you a warm pat on the head and a "good boy".
    That is a silly comment. I am older than Luntz and most likely had my views before he did. So your claims are idiotic. maybe I influenced him. I was calling the estate tax a death tax about the time my grandfather died in 1969

    but you seem to think that those who oppose welfare socialism and the death tax are some small little group

    that is laughable

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that doesn't make sense
    I guess that's because you're still confused by basic tax concepts... addition of taxes paid and credits allowed

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I guess that's because you're still confused by basic tax concepts... addition of taxes paid and credits allowed
    read what you wrote again-it doesn't make sense

    and so what part of Paul's tax policy did you like?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in 2008? the general election

    Ron Paul has some good ideas He is a bit nutty personally and his foreign policy is a bit too naive for my taste but he's far far far better than Obama

    so tell me what would Mr Paul's position on taxes be
    I don't agree with him entirely either, and I have sort of lost a lot of my favor in him since 2008. Overall, I still think he is has strong principles and is predictive and therefore better than Romney. His foreign policy was great. He was against the neocons and Bush Admins foreign policy, and because of that policy, Bush is one of the least popular presidents in recent history.

    I don't understand why you'd hate his foreign policy. Why should we invade countries and then put on some type of international welfare and financial support? You don't support welfare for your own citizens, but corporate and Iraqi welfare are acceptable, right?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That is a silly comment. I am older than Luntz and most likely had my views before he did. So your claims are idiotic. maybe I influenced him. I was calling the estate tax a death tax about the time my grandfather died in 1969

    but you seem to think that those who oppose welfare socialism and the death tax are some small little group

    that is laughable
    Your age is irrelevant. The fact is a simple one: every post you have ever made here using the neologism DEATH TAX was made well after Luntz & Faris issued their marching orders to the sycophants of corporate America. Every single one of them.

    They would be proud of you and maybe even reward you with a biscuit.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't agree with him entirely either, and I have sort of lost a lot of my favor in him since 2008. Overall, I still think he is has strong principles and is predictive and therefore better than Romney. His foreign policy was great. He was against the neocons and Bush Admins foreign policy, and because of that policy, Bush is one of the least popular presidents in recent history.

    I don't understand why you'd hate his foreign policy. Why should we invade countries and then put on some type of international welfare and financial support? You don't support welfare for your own citizens, but corporate and Iraqi welfare are acceptable, right?
    that is a rather simplistic view of the foreign policy. I don't believe in the almost complete isolationist position he advocated. I oppose lots of the handouts we give other nations and I cannot see why we have so many soldiers in Germany

    however I see a value in supporting some countries and I see a value of having a military presence in an area that has immense strategic value

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your age is irrelevant. The fact is a simple one: every post you have ever made here using the neologism DEATH TAX was made well after Luntz & Faris issued their marching orders to the sycophants of corporate America. Every single one of them.

    They would be proud of you and maybe even reward you with a biscuit.
    that is idiotic


    Just because I joined this BOARD after those two used the term does not mean I adopted the term from them

    and btw how could I have used the term here before they did since this board started less than 10 years ago?

    I was using that term before you ever heard of them
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is idiotic


    Just because I joined this BOARD after those two used the term does not mean I adopted the term from them

    I was using that term before you ever heard of them
    Another example of you making claims using your own personal history or life as the only support for it. So typical. And so intellectually dishonest in debate.
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