View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So the capital gains preferential rate goes by the boards in the Ryan plan and is then taxed as normal income? Is that correct?

    And the $5 million dollar exemption on the inheritance tax gets removed also in the Ryan plan? Is that also correct?
    what does the death tax have to do with income tax other than being a SURCHARGE on the rich?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what does the death tax have to do with income tax other than being a SURCHARGE on the rich?
    Here was the statement from Marine

    What you ignore is that his plan cut out all of the loopholes that allowed the "rich" to get their average tax rate down to 25% ANYWAY.
    I listed two of the largest loopholes that allow the rich to get their tax bite lower than many working people who are taxed only on income for their labor.

    Again - does the Ryan plan get rid of these preferential discriminatory advantages for the rich or are these still allowed or even made worse under the Ryan plan?

    Lets see it.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here was the statement from Marine



    I listed two of the largest loopholes that allow the rich to get their tax bite lower than many working people who are taxed only on income for their labor.

    Again - does the Ryan plan get rid of these preferential discriminatory advantages for the rich or are these still allowed or even made worse under the Ryan plan?

    Lets see it.
    the only discrimination is that wealthy people pay higher rates on earned income than others

    and that the wealthy face the surcharge known as the death tax

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    LOL. Romney is already backpeddling on picking Ryan. His campaign released a statement today already trying to distance himself from Ryan's budget.

    Mitt Romney hugs Paul Ryan, but not budget - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    If Romney seriously wanted Obama out of the Whitehouse he should trade spots with Ryan and make Ryan the presidential candidate and Romney take the VP helm.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    have you ever figured out why stuff is outsourced? do you buy anything made overseas? Outsourcing is one of those silly bugaboos that the mindless on the left spew without really understanding things

    what is better-a company that buys supplies or commodities from global sources and remains in business in the USA or one that pays too much for commodities and goes out of business meaning everyone in America who worked for that company are out of work
    Do you know why people outsource TD? Did you not take any Global Economics courses in college? I mean, there are many different arguments as to why it occurs, and then there is the theoretical reason and what outsourcing and free trade should accomplish in theory. Exactly what position are you arguing?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Do you know why people outsource TD? Did you not take any Global Economics courses in college? I mean, there are many different arguments as to why it occurs, and then there is the theoretical reason and what outsourcing and free trade should accomplish in theory. Exactly what position are you arguing?
    gee you figured it out
    there are MANY DIFFERENT REASONS which is EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING TO Ipast who seems to think its all about greed.

    I am arguing that economic reality is something he doesn't understand

    he instead spews populist garbage.

    I suspect I know far more about this subject than you think I know based on that idiotic question

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    LOL. Romney is already backpeddling on picking Ryan. His campaign released a statement today already trying to distance himself from Ryan's budget.

    Mitt Romney hugs Paul Ryan, but not budget - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com
    Why the hell did he pick Ryan then, and oh yes, Romney did support the Ryan plan once before... :

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    gee you figured it out
    there are MANY DIFFERENT REASONS which is EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING TO Ipast who seems to think its all about greed.

    I am arguing that economic reality is something he doesn't understand

    he instead spews populist garbage.

    I suspect I know far more about this subject than you think I know based on that idiotic question
    Yeah, like the time you told me you knew more about taxes and then went on to prove that you don't understand taxes and how tax credits and refunds work. Your misunderstanding of basic tax law should have been an embarrassment to you. There are high school drop outs that know better than to say "you only get a refund based on the taxes you overpaid," and you're always bragging about your education and even tax law classes you have taken.

    I am sure you think you know more about global economics than you actually do. That's my bet.
    Last edited by SheWolf; 08-12-12 at 12:22 AM.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why the hell did he pick Ryan then, and oh yes, Romney did support the Ryan plan once before... :
    Yep. I imagine he still supported it at 9 am.... But by 1 pm he decided he was against the signature legislative act of the person he just picked as VP... Apparently he realized his mistake... The Romney campaign is a complete disaster.
    Total tax rates- People living in poverty: 16.2%. The median American: 27%. Working people who make over $140k/year: 31%. The top 1%: 30%. Super rich investors: around 15%. Help the democrats retake the house.

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