View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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    51 27.42%
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    84 45.16%
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only people who dislike Rand are those she called LOOTERS

    Oh did she mean all the americans put out of work by outsourcing so the CEOs could get bigger bonus...those looters ? or Jaimie Dimond and JP Morgan and Libor those looters ? which looters we talking about turtle
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Oh did she mean all the americans put out of work by outsourcing so the CEOs could get bigger bonus...those looters ?
    have you ever figured out why stuff is outsourced? do you buy anything made overseas? Outsourcing is one of those silly bugaboos that the mindless on the left spew without really understanding things

    what is better-a company that buys supplies or commodities from global sources and remains in business in the USA or one that pays too much for commodities and goes out of business meaning everyone in America who worked for that company are out of work

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    have you ever figured out why stuff is outsourced? do you buy anything made overseas? Outsourcing is one of those silly bugaboos that the mindless on the left spew without really understanding things

    what is better-a company that buys supplies or commodities from global sources and remains in business in the USA or one that pays too much for commodities and goes out of business meaning everyone in America who worked for that company are out of work
    Turtle dont give me that crap ok...ive been around too long to listen to that garbage anymore

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Outsourcing has destroyed our economy and the middleclass and has caused nothing but misery for millions of people put out of work...that are either unemployed and cant pay their mortgages or underemployed and cant meet their bills...all the while the RICH JUST GOT RICHER AND RICHER and paid less and less taxs...and here is turtledude still trying to blame all the people put out of work call them looters and hail the rich as the great saviors for outsourcing and screwing everyone....turtle if romney loses it will be precisely for that callous disengenuous rich brat attitude

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Turtle dont give me that crap ok...ive been around too long to listen to that garbage anymore
    the garbage is the crap that comes from people who squawk like parrots that outsourcing-without understanding the facts about it-is always bad

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Outsourcing has destroyed our economy and the middleclass and has caused nothing but misery for millions of people put out of work...that are either unemployed and cant pay their mortgages or underemployed and cant meet their bills...all the while the RICH JUST GOT RICHER AND RICHER and paid less and less taxs...and here is turtledude still trying to blame all the people put out of work call them looters and hail the rich as the great saviors for outsourcing and screwing everyone....turtle if romney loses it will be precisely for that callous disengenuous rich brat attitude

    a bright and shining bit of BS. its simplistic nonsense to make such and idiotic claim

    globalism is with us whether you like it or not and you cannot undue the fact that some countries now have laborers that are as skilled as our blue collar workers and who are willing to work for far less. Nothing will change that fact and those who want to remain semi skilled and expect to get paid top dollar despite the competition worldwide are idiots. the way to maintain good wages is to be SKILLED. and your moronic rants about the rich are just that-populist psychobabble of someone who is ignorant about how the world labor market works.

    your posts are the product of a public sector union worker who has no clue that most jobs have to compete with foreign labor.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a bright and shining bit of BS. its simplistic nonsense to make such and idiotic claim

    globalism is with us whether you like it or not and you cannot undue the fact that some countries now have laborers that are as skilled as our blue collar workers and who are willing to work for far less. Nothing will change that fact and those who want to remain semi skilled and expect to get paid top dollar despite the competition worldwide are idiots. the way to maintain good wages is to be SKILLED. and your moronic rants about the rich are just that-populist psychobabble of someone who is ignorant about how the world labor market works.

    your posts are the product of a public sector union worker who has no clue that most jobs have to compete with foreign labor.

    Your posts are full of rich guy privledged BS and every post denigrates people that work for a living and blames them for all the debt and woes...every day another big pig bank is caught criminally and get away with it...you blow that off....you never acknowledge all the people your pigs put out of work and you never ever mention the full 50% cut in taxs and the fact the divide between have NOTHINGS and HAVE IT ALL h as grown in leaps and bounds since Mittzy and the boys started screwing the working class

    Turtle one thing is for certain...there is no more decent jobs left for all americans...you can cut entitlements all you want...and trust this...the tearparty is on a high...it wont stay that way...the far right will not win in the end...because the people are not going to stop hurting anymore...and it will all turn around....I made far more money in business my wife and I ...my police salary was an allowance...so dont give me your pompous bs ok..im not impressed one iota

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Outsourcing has destroyed our economy and the middleclass and has caused nothing but misery for millions of people put out of work...that are either unemployed and cant pay their mortgages or underemployed and cant meet their bills...
    Then US citizens are going to have to pony up, and stop demanding cheap Chinese sh*t. People in this country want to get cheap stuff, and they are not willing to pay for Americans to produce them, at American wages. It's just as much the fault of Joe and Jane Blow, as it is anyone's.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Your posts are full of rich guy privledged BS and every post denigrates people that work for a living and blames them for all the debt and woes...every day another big pig bank is caught criminally and get away with it...you blow that off....you never acknowledge all the people your pigs put out of work and you never ever mention the full 50% cut in taxs and the fact the divide between have NOTHINGS and HAVE IT ALL h as grown in leaps and bounds since Mittzy and the boys started screwing the working class

    Turtle one thing is for certain...there is no more decent jobs left for all americans...you can cut entitlements all you want...and trust this...the tearparty is on a high...it wont stay that way...the far right will not win in the end...because the people are not going to stop hurting anymore...and it will all turn around....I made far more money in business my wife and I ...my police salary was an allowance...so dont give me your pompous bs ok..im not impressed one iota
    economic reality bitch slaps those who think that someone doing menial labor in a manufacturing plant ought to get 40 dollars an hour

    how are they going to keep such jobs when people in India, Taiwan, or Cambodia can do that same job for 5 dollars an hour

    you hate reality and you think that me telling you what the score is makes me some sort of fat cat robber baron

    the fact is, if I own a company and my competition pays 5 dollars an hour for unskilled labor, I cannot remain in business paying 25 dollars an hour for the same quality labor.


    tell me why do unskilled Americans deserve to be paid 5X what unskilled laborers in other countries get?

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Okay, the tax cuts for the rich rhetoric has to stop. It is true that his tax plan took taxes for the "rich" down to 25%. What you ignore is that his plan cut out all of the loopholes that allowed the "rich" to get their average tax rate down to 25% ANYWAY. Don't buy the media hype bro, do your own research.
    So the capital gains preferential rate goes by the boards in the Ryan plan and is then taxed as normal income? Is that correct?

    And the $5 million dollar exemption on the inheritance tax gets removed also in the Ryan plan? Is that also correct?
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