View Poll Results: Will Ryan as VP help or hurt Romney win election?

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  • It will help Romney

    51 27.42%
  • It will hurt Romney

    84 45.16%
  • It will have no real effect on the outcome

    38 20.43%
  • Other, please explain

    13 6.99%
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Thread: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This is the message that picking Ryan sends. More taking from the poor to give to the rich. Basically the question Romney is asking America right now is "How would you like another recession?" More jobs will go overseas. More homes will be foreclosed on. More "shared sacrifice" that will fall on the middle and lower classes. And more profits for the business elite.
    I think that is their plan entirely. If you think about it, Romney's specialty is taking things that are loaded with debt (this country) and selling them off piece by piece (like at Bain). Its a wet dream for investment firms, Romney in the whitehouse.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That would be a sensible argument except that 1/3 of the US population is now getting some taxpayer assistance. It is very hard to believe that can be "good", while we have at least 15 million illegal aliens that can find work.
    well, it would be a sensible argument if anyone was proposing to take those programs away.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It's a desperation play for sure that will only delight voters who are already on his side. But I guess he figured what more do I have to lose.
    The best part is that now the election can be a referendum on the Ryan budget and more tax cuts for the rich. Let's get that over and done with so we can move on.
    Okay, the tax cuts for the rich rhetoric has to stop. It is true that his tax plan took taxes for the "rich" down to 25%. What you ignore is that his plan cut out all of the loopholes that allowed the "rich" to get their average tax rate down to 25% ANYWAY. Don't buy the media hype bro, do your own research.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ultimately I think it'll have little effect. I think that this race, by and large, is going to be decided based on the people at the top of the ticket not at the bottom.

    Realistically, I imagine Ryan will drive away some independents and win support of some Republicans that may not have voted or would've gone 3rd party. On one hand, it gives the Democrats another person to attack and rail against (yay, maybe we can get some more ad's tossing granny off a cliff) on the other hand I think Paul is MASSIVELY underrated by the die hard democrats/left leaning posters on this site in being able to explain and simplify Republican fiscal ideas that are going to be the heart of any chance they have to win. I think he does this far better than Romney and if used right could prove a benefit for right leaning moderates/independents that went with "hope" last election but are looking for an alternative this election.
    Unlike most, Romney picking him has me reconsidering writing in Ron Paul. Haven't made up my mind yet and I will probably still write in. But it made me reconsider at least.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The very idea of a Randroid in the White House is something out of a nightmare novel.
    It is only a potential nightmare for the man who believes he has the 'right' to demand that others be forced to carry the burden of his survival for him. So yeah, I can think of a few people who wont be too happy. I guess you could say "it sucks to be them." But that was always true.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The very idea of a Randroid in the White House is something out of a nightmare novel.
    If Romney-Ryan win the election, then we will long for the days of Bush-Cheney. They will be that bad.

    All this libertarian theory would be brutally exposed as just that--theory.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Okay, the tax cuts for the rich rhetoric has to stop. It is true that his tax plan took taxes for the "rich" down to 25%. What you ignore is that his plan cut out all of the loopholes that allowed the "rich" to get their average tax rate down to 25% ANYWAY. Don't buy the media hype bro, do your own research.
    We have heard this line every election. Take out the tax loopholes. And just like Lucy holding the football for Charley Brown she pulls it away each time after promising.

    I really can't believe the big donators to the candidates would be giving that much money if they were thinking it was going to thwart their long time tradition of having tax loopholes.
    It doesn't matter who wins, the tax loopholes will be here 4 years from now.

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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    We have heard this line every election. Take out the tax loopholes. And just like Lucy holding the football for Charley Brown she pulls it away each time after promising.

    I really can't believe the big donators to the candidates would be giving that much money if they were thinking it was going to thwart their long time tradition of having tax loopholes.
    It doesn't matter who wins, the tax loopholes will be here 4 years from now.
    If the Senate had passed Ryans budget, it would have been a reality. I agree that we have heard it all before, however, it hasn't been passed on the House floor. It has just been mentioned as some kind of talking point. Now, it has been legitimately passed through the House. Honestly, I would rather Dems lose the Senate and Romney win. BTW, hilarious Charlie Brown analogy. I like it.
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    Re: Paul Ryan, Help Or Hurt Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The very idea of a Randroid in the White House is something out of a nightmare novel.
    the only people who dislike Rand are those she called LOOTERS

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