View Poll Results: Should Older Unemployed Workers Get Social Security?

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  • No, we can't afford it.

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  • No, I don't believe older people have more trouble finding work.

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    AT that age you can get meals on wheels and SNAP.
    Well, you need a residence and a severe medical condition to get meals on wheels, Kali, and it's a charitable program, not a government one. And you need an address to get food stamps, too, but you can't pay the mortgage or the electric bill with them.

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Work that pays is harder to get the older you are, and in a down economy with many younger workers out of work, it is even more difficult. SO, if a person is trying, and still can't get the work they need to pay the bills, what other options are there?

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Work that pays is harder to get the older you are, and in a down economy with many younger workers out of work, it is even more difficult. SO, if a person is trying, and still can't get the work they need to pay the bills, what other options are there?
    What have people been doing since the time of modern civilization? Suddenly we need to give money to people in this situation? If you are able to work, under 62, and just cant find a job that is tough luck. I could make up categories of people we should sympathize with all day long but that doesnt mean they should be added to government assistance. If you are in your 50's you should have a nice size retirement nest egg anyway. In an emergency situation you could always use that money instead of taxpayer money.

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by cbaber View Post
    What have people been doing since the time of modern civilization? Suddenly we need to give money to people in this situation? If you are able to work, under 62, and just cant find a job that is tough luck. I could make up categories of people we should sympathize with all day long but that doesnt mean they should be added to government assistance. If you are in your 50's you should have a nice size retirement nest egg anyway. In an emergency situation you could always use that money instead of taxpayer money.

    This is not the same as before...outsourcing to china india and phillipines and whereever have put millions more people out of work that still have to EAT and LIVE and may have kids to feed....there are people that out of dire necessity who would never consider going on the govt dole that have no choices left...no more unemployment lost their homes....and the rich are clammering for another TAX CUT...here it is for me...id much rather have someone who cant find a job because a CEO wanted a bigger bonus to get a hand with MY TAX MONEY alot more than I want mitt romeny to pay even less than 13% on hundreds of millions....this has gotten beyond ridiculous and callous....Ive never seen such greed and uncaring crap in my life.
    Just what do you conservatives expect all these GOOD PEOPLE who want to work to do after youve screwed them...man

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Work that pays is harder to get the older you are, and in a down economy with many younger workers out of work, it is even more difficult. SO, if a person is trying, and still can't get the work they need to pay the bills, what other options are there?
    My question, too, and I was suggesting a solution -- but no one likes it. I'm not sure myself that it's workable, but at least we both see the problem.

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by cbaber View Post
    What have people been doing since the time of modern civilization? Suddenly we need to give money to people in this situation? If you are able to work, under 62, and just cant find a job that is tough luck. I could make up categories of people we should sympathize with all day long but that doesnt mean they should be added to government assistance. If you are in your 50's you should have a nice size retirement nest egg anyway. In an emergency situation you could always use that money instead of taxpayer money.
    But see, that "nest egg" is what they've been living on while they look for work -- after it's gone, then what?

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Can't they just get some ObamaBucks?

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    But see, that "nest egg" is what they've been living on while they look for work -- after it's gone, then what?
    I find it hard that someone, who is physically able to go to work, can't find a job doing, something, anything, even if it's picking up cans out of the road ditch. Relocate, if they have to, anything.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I find it hard that someone, who is physically able to go to work, can't find a job doing, something, anything, even if it's picking up cans out of the road ditch. Relocate, if they have to, anything.
    Yes, you're not alone in this, apdst. I can understand why you have trouble believing it happens. But it does, and it happens a lot.

    These people are almost invisibly poor, and after a lifetime of working, I thought maybe it was worth considering allowing them some limited access to their retirement benefits sooner to alleviate their suffering. Doesn't mean I had a good idea, though.


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    Re: Let The Unemployable Have Social Security

    Quote Originally Posted by cbaber View Post
    What have people been doing since the time of modern civilization? Suddenly we need to give money to people in this situation? If you are able to work, under 62, and just cant find a job that is tough luck. I could make up categories of people we should sympathize with all day long but that doesnt mean they should be added to government assistance. If you are in your 50's you should have a nice size retirement nest egg anyway. In an emergency situation you could always use that money instead of taxpayer money.
    They've suffered. Died. Had others take of them. And many working poor don't have a nest egg. And those who do, well, it only lasts so long. This a problem, and I hope we have a better answet than tough ****.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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