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    Conscription- Would you serve?

    I recently discovered that the USA maintains a roll of potential conscripts. This got me thinking.

    For the purpose of this thought experiment let us assume the USA and it's allies has gotten involved in a long, messy and very bloody battle with China over Tawian's independence. This has involved fighting on mainly Chinese soil and China are clearly on the defensive.

    If there was a clear mechanism to opt out of service, not necessarily conscientious objector but other excuses as well.

    My Question is thus, would you serve if you are conscripted?

    Explain your answer.

    Note: I'm not nessecarily focusing on fighting china, more of an external threat. Also, for the purposes of this thought exercises, females are on the SSR as well.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    I would only defend my country on home turf, pretty simple. Although it's doubtful wether I would be medically fit. I don't believe serving overseas is the best way to use conscripts.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Ya, I wonder why this is myself. Seems like flat-out government waste to maintain the apparatus to draft people into the military when no sane person I know thinks any nation will ever fight a war on the scale of WW II again -- or even on the scale of Vietnam.

    To answer your question, I am not morally opposed to killing people in warfare, and I am not particularly afraid of being killed myself. I thought it appalling in the 1970's that this nation forced men but not women into combat, and I still do.

    So, unless I had some huge issue with the military task our country was setting out to accomplish for political reasons (as I did to the Vietnam War), yes, I would most certainly serve.
    Last edited by Pinkie; 08-09-12 at 09:12 PM.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    since I voluntarily signed up over 20 years ago...my answer would have to be "yes"
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    I would only defend my country on home turf, pretty simple. Although it's doubtful wether I would be medically fit. I don't believe serving overseas is the best way to use conscripts.
    In the spirit of honesty, I must admit I doubt there'd be any combat duty I'd be fit for, either, IRL -- but once upon a time I was young and strong, and I believed then as I do now it is horribly unfair not to ask all young people to serve, if any of them are to be asked.

    I'm fairly sure Israel does exactly this, or at least once did. Seems to have worked well for them.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    In the spirit of honesty, I must admit I doubt there'd be any combat duty I'd be fit for, either, IRL -- but once upon a time I was young and strong, and I believed then as I do now it is horribly unfair not to ask all young people to serve, if any of them are to be asked.

    I'm fairly sure Israel does exactly this, or at least once did. Seems to have worked well for them.
    meh, my last deployment to Iraq, I was 46 years old and had two bum knees and a bum shoulder.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    I tried to enlist but my eyesight disqualified me, so today I work for the government and face denigration as one of those "sucking off the teat of our taxpayer funding". Interesting - military personnel become heroes but being employed by the same government can make one a parasite. There is a disconnect.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Between my arthritis and the anxiety caused by my aspergers, I doubt the military would want me.

    I cant even donate blood.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Between my arthritis and the anxiety caused by my aspergers, I doubt the military would want me.

    I cant even donate blood.
    thanks to all the vaccinations the Army has forced upon me, I can no longer donate blood at any of the "for profit" centers. it costs more to rerun the tests to clear the false positives than the blood is worth. I, apparently, have HEP-B antibodies in my blood that always gives a false positive for HEP-B. I freaked out the first time it happened when they sent me the notice because it took them a couple of days to send me the confirmation test that showed it was false positive (by which time, I had coughed up the co-pay to go to my family doc to get checked out)
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    With females in the military a return to the draft is political suicide. I am now 58 so I voted no, if we so desparate that even I am asked I will politely decline. ;-)
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