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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The last thing the military is going to do in the event of an invasion is wait 3-12 months to respond so that they can take conscripts such as your self and go train them.

    No. The response would be immediate. If we're talking a domestic invasion the existing military on US soil (to include the National Guard) couldn't handle, the government would not draft.

    The government would activate the unorganized militia; a general call-to-arms for all able bodied citizens. Rally points announced, hasty leadership set up, and immediate action taken.

    So it's kind of silly to say you would join if we were invaded. Once the foreign army is on our soil, it's to late to ship off to boot.

    If you don't want to join the service, that's fine. No one will think less of you. But if you want to be ready to defend your country from invasion without joining the service today, then prepare yourself for the roll of militiaman. You don't have to become a survivalist or anything like that, just stay in shape. If you have a medical problem, no problem, just do what can do. Certify in first aid and have a basic kit in your house (IMO you should do this anyway). Be ready to go a few days without utilities. And of course, own a firearm; shoot it, know it, love it.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    I recently discovered that the USA maintains a roll of potential conscripts. This got me thinking.

    For the purpose of this thought experiment let us assume the USA and it's allies has gotten involved in a long, messy and very bloody battle with China over Tawian's independence. This has involved fighting on mainly Chinese soil and China are clearly on the defensive.

    If there was a clear mechanism to opt out of service, not necessarily conscientious objector but other excuses as well.

    My Question is thus, would you serve if you are conscripted?

    Explain your answer.

    Note: I'm not nessecarily focusing on fighting china, more of an external threat. Also, for the purposes of this thought exercises, females are on the SSR as well.
    Since it says China is defending then, I assume that we have initiated the offense for that worthless Taiwan. We attacked Iraq. We attacked Libya. We attacked Vietnam. Very profitable wars and all offensive in more ways than one. I'm a Vietnam vet and would gladly defend my country. Defense, not a profitable corporate war for resources.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    I honestly don't know. I'm not built for the battle field, either emotionally or physically. If I could serve in some other way (morale, troop services, supply lines, etc) I'd seriously considered it. But if I'm being called up to take my gun and charge the front lines....I don't think I'd be able to do it. I'd be the asshole cowering at the back of the ranks in a ditch, crying for mommy.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Since it says China is defending then, I assume that we have initiated the offense for that worthless Taiwan. We attacked Iraq. We attacked Libya. We attacked Vietnam. Very profitable wars and all offensive in more ways than one. I'm a Vietnam vet and would gladly defend my country. Defense, not a profitable corporate war for resources.
    Thank you for your service for our country

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Or the Mk 19. Go for the Mk 19.
    Nah, the mk 19 makes a good boat anchor and that is about all. With the way ROE are these days they won't let you fire it for fear of collateral damage.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I know what you mean. I was disappointed about a lot of things when I first joined the army. One thing was that no sergeant tried to bounce a quarter off of my freshly made bunk. I was disappointed that thet kept my m14 loced on the armory and I had no bullets for it except for guard duty.
    With the way the Army was when I was in, I wouldn't be surprised if Soldiers just lived in giant rats nests with a bunch of gay communist propaganda on their walls, with E-5's through E-8's letting them do it. I didn't even get rounds for guard duty in Korea. When I asked what do I do if the enemy gets in, they said "figure it out"

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Nah, the mk 19 makes a good boat anchor and that is about all. With the way ROE are these days they won't let you fire it for fear of collateral damage.
    All I care is that somebody else has it. I hate that ****ing thing.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    All I care is that somebody else has it. I hate that ****ing thing.
    I once got a conselling statement for killing a coyote with a mk 19 at Ft McClellan during weapons qual. Coyote wandered onto the range and the tower nazi yelled "cease fire"......oops, i guess my ear plugs were in too tight.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    I would only defend my country on home turf, pretty simple. Although it's doubtful wether I would be medically fit. I don't believe serving overseas is the best way to use conscripts.
    That's about it for me. I doubt they'd want to conscript somebody who's 38 at any rate (unless things got really desperate).


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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I once got a conselling statement for killing a coyote with a mk 19 at Ft McClellan during weapons qual. Coyote wandered onto the range and the tower nazi yelled "cease fire"......oops, i guess my ear plugs were in too tight.
    I killed a turkey during Basic. The all day smoke session that followed it was worth it, just to nail that smug bastard of a bird.
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