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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    "Hopes"? People who volunteer during war can expect to be deployed. They are all ass?
    When I was enlisted, there were Soldiers doing everything they could to stay non-deployable, while still getting that sweet government check.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I misread the above, twice.
    It's all good.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    I recently discovered that the USA maintains a roll of potential conscripts. This got me thinking.
    The roll in question is called Selective Service System: Welcome

    USC › Title 10 › Subtitle A › Part I › Chapter 13 › 311

    (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
    (b) The classes of the militia are
    (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
    Every US citizen is automatically a part of the unorganized militia. This is how we can be drafted, because we're already affiliated with the military by default...the state can just 'call you up'. They're not enslaving a free man, they're activating a militiaman. The very purpose of the Selective Service is to record exactly who is in the unorganized militia should they need to be activated.

    I've long been of the opinion that a 2-year term or service should be mandatory for everyone upon turning 18, because when US citizens turn 18 we become part of the militia whether we like it or not. This is forced on us like taxes, so IMO just roll with it, we should just use it to our advantage. Even if we choose not to continue to serve in the military, we are still in the militia and so we should have some base-level training to accompany it. We could be summarily deputized during a natural disaster before relief comes. We could be part of a neighborhood watch, etc. These civil duties would be greatly served by basic military training.

    Being associated with the military be default is also how we drive our right to personally own firearms, but I suppose that's for another thread.

    To answer your question, assuming I weren't already in the service, yes, I would serve. If I disagreed with the conflict in question then I would do what my uncles did during Vietnam and voluntarily enlist before I was drafted and choose a 'safe' job in the military. One of my uncles was in Vietnam for the entire duration of the conflict, but he never saw any action, because he served on a Navy ship. He stayed off-coast the whole time and was never in danger. When he got out the government gave him a big pat on the back for being a volunteer, money for collage and a sparkling military tore of duty to put on his resume.
    Last edited by Jerry; 08-13-12 at 03:01 AM.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Combat support doesn't ensure fobbitry, especially for mechanics. That said, anyone who enlists and hopes to never get deployed is an ass.
    Wrecker trucks are an essential part of every convoy. Also, at a minimum we take 2 mechanics and a contact-truck on every engineer build mission.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    You're going to be disappointed...
    I know what you mean. I was disappointed about a lot of things when I first joined the army. One thing was that no sergeant tried to bounce a quarter off of my freshly made bunk. I was disappointed that thet kept my m14 loced on the armory and I had no bullets for it except for guard duty.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Or the Mk 19. Go for the Mk 19.
    Will they let me take it with me while I am on leave?

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    So thinking about it, if I didn't have my genetic issues and was fully able bodied.

    It would entirely depend on how I felt about the war. If some foreign aggressor was invading US soil, hell yes.

    If it was a vietnam like situation or if I was asked to serve in the current Iraq war, I would do some serious cost-benefit analysis before making my choice.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    at times of peril to the community that is fraught enough to threaten us to the point where a mass-coercion of all able-bodied men to the defenses is necessary, not only would I serve, I would look severe askance upon those who would not.
    Last edited by cpwill; 08-13-12 at 08:44 AM.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    When I was enlisted, there were Soldiers doing everything they could to stay non-deployable, while still getting that sweet government check.
    that part hasn't changed. Even now after 10 years we have folks who have been in the entire time and have gone to lengths to see no combat tours. disgusting.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So thinking about it, if I didn't have my genetic issues and was fully able bodied.

    It would entirely depend on how I felt about the war. If some foreign aggressor was invading US soil, hell yes.

    If it was a vietnam like situation or if I was asked to serve in the current Iraq war, I would do some serious cost-benefit analysis before making my choice.
    The last thing the military is going to do in the event of an invasion is wait 3-12 months to respond so that they can take conscripts such as your self and go train them.

    No. The response would be immediate. If we're talking a domestic invasion the existing military on US soil (to include the National Guard) couldn't handle, the government would not draft.

    The government would activate the unorganized militia; a general call-to-arms for all able bodied citizens. Rally points announced, hasty leadership set up, and immediate action taken.

    So it's kind of silly to say you would join if we were invaded. Once the foreign army is on our soil, it's to late to ship off to boot.

    If you don't want to join the service, that's fine. No one will think less of you. But if you want to be ready to defend your country from invasion without joining the service today, then prepare yourself for the roll of militiaman. You don't have to become a survivalist or anything like that, just stay in shape. If you have a medical problem, no problem, just do what can do. Certify in first aid and have a basic kit in your house (IMO you should do this anyway). Be ready to go a few days without utilities. And of course, own a firearm; shoot it, know it, love it.

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