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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Righteous Wars and other myths.

    WWII is considered a righteous war by most Americans, yet it had the draft.

    What I have noticed about the right wing patriots is there are quite a few have a wide variety of justifications for not serving but demand those who attack us be punished with military force. The former vice president comes to mind, but seems quite a few very well off conservative Americans have very well rehearsed excuses for not serving. Funny how many love shooting sports, talk a mean game about patriotism, armed citizens to keep tyranny at bay, but are not about to go anywhere near 'harm's way' when real threats are around.

    I volunteered for the Infantry, just figured it was what a citizen who can serve should do. I personally don't see much worth dying for overseas, but who really does? If it is up to each citizen to decide I'd wager a shiny nickle most would opt out. So I figure it as not for me to reason why, we are supposed to have civilian leadership that truly does value American life over corporate gain. Over petty vendettas and childish posturing. Remember each soldier has put life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness at risk to serve the national interest.

    I have heard a lot of reasons why men didn't serve their country. The worst is 'righteous' war. War is never righteous to those who see combat, lose buddies, lose life. it is a vile and evil process you are a tiny part in the grand scheme of things.

    I guess some would rather enjoy all the good our nation has to offer, but not render service to keep her strong. These days less than 10% of those in uniform are in combat arms- logistics and personnel support eat up vast numbers. Plenty of places for the not so willing to risk life and limb, to serve the nation that has so blessed so many of us.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    For a free assault rifle, you are darn right I would.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
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    hold out for a crew served belt fed firing from the open bolt position general purpose machine gun ... THEY kick ass!
    Or the Mk 19. Go for the Mk 19.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    I didnít have to be conscripted I volunteered!
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    I once had a Soldier in my platoon who got a letter in the mail from the selective service system telling him he needed to register. The irony of having someone already in the Army register for the draft was not lost on us, but I guess if he got out before the age of 25 they'd need the info.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    I recently discovered that the USA maintains a roll of potential conscripts. This got me thinking.

    For the purpose of this thought experiment let us assume the USA and it's allies has gotten involved in a long, messy and very bloody battle with China over Tawian's independence. This has involved fighting on mainly Chinese soil and China are clearly on the defensive.

    If there was a clear mechanism to opt out of service, not necessarily conscientious objector but other excuses as well.

    My Question is thus, would you serve if you are conscripted?

    Explain your answer.

    Note: I'm not nessecarily focusing on fighting china, more of an external threat. Also, for the purposes of this thought exercises, females are on the SSR as well.
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    I believe others' freedom, when things are really bad, is worth it.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Righteous Wars and other myths.

    WWII is considered a righteous war by most Americans, yet it had the draft.

    What I have noticed about the right wing patriots is there are quite a few have a wide variety of justifications for not serving but demand those who attack us be punished with military force. The former vice president comes to mind, but seems quite a few very well off conservative Americans have very well rehearsed excuses for not serving. Funny how many love shooting sports, talk a mean game about patriotism, armed citizens to keep tyranny at bay, but are not about to go anywhere near 'harm's way' when real threats are around.

    I volunteered for the Infantry, just figured it was what a citizen who can serve should do. I personally don't see much worth dying for overseas, but who really does? If it is up to each citizen to decide I'd wager a shiny nickle most would opt out. So I figure it as not for me to reason why, we are supposed to have civilian leadership that truly does value American life over corporate gain. Over petty vendettas and childish posturing. Remember each soldier has put life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness at risk to serve the national interest.

    I have heard a lot of reasons why men didn't serve their country. The worst is 'righteous' war. War is never righteous to those who see combat, lose buddies, lose life. it is a vile and evil process you are a tiny part in the grand scheme of things.

    I guess some would rather enjoy all the good our nation has to offer, but not render service to keep her strong. These days less than 10% of those in uniform are in combat arms- logistics and personnel support eat up vast numbers. Plenty of places for the not so willing to risk life and limb, to serve the nation that has so blessed so many of us.
    Combat support doesn't ensure fobbitry, especially for mechanics. That said, anyone who enlists and hopes to never get deployed is an ass.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    I misread the above, twice.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-13-12 at 02:28 AM.

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