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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    thanks to all the vaccinations the Army has forced upon me, I can no longer donate blood at any of the "for profit" centers. it costs more to rerun the tests to clear the false positives than the blood is worth. I, apparently, have HEP-B antibodies in my blood that always gives a false positive for HEP-B. I freaked out the first time it happened when they sent me the notice because it took them a couple of days to send me the confirmation test that showed it was false positive (by which time, I had coughed up the co-pay to go to my family doc to get checked out)
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    If it was on home turf and it threatened the American way of life, yes, I would serve if conscripted. I would not serve overseas and/or in a war which I don't believe in.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    maybe it's just me...but the last time I checked...conscriptions were not voluntary. Is the question: if conscripted would you choose between serving and going to jail for not?
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Defending Taiwan is not even close to being serious enough to justify the draft.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    meh, my last deployment to Iraq, I was 46 years old and had two bum knees and a bum shoulder.
    You are a hero, Oscar. Thank you.


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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    You are a hero, Oscar. Thank you.

    aw shucks, I don't consider myself a hero (although I have done a few heroic things) just an average guy doing the job I volunteered to do.
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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    maybe it's just me...but the last time I checked...conscriptions were not voluntary. Is the question: if conscripted would you choose between serving and going to jail for not?
    They are not, but I was answering Stewart's question:

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    If there was a clear mechanism to opt out of service, not necessarily conscientious objector but other excuses as well.

    My Question is thus, would you serve if you are conscripted?

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Defending Taiwan is not even close to being serious enough to justify the draft.
    Yeah, when Michael Bay makes one of those super patriotic collages that illustrate everything good about the American way of life that's at stake in order to justify great acts of heroism, I have a really hard time imagining going to war with China over Taiwan as something such a collage could be made for.

    Ive only got one life -- I'm not throwing it away over foreign squabbles.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    My Dad lived from 1914-1997, he served in army infantry, drafted Jan. '42, discharged May '45. Basic from Jan - May of '42, shipped to Pacific Theater of Operations (PTO) in May 42, trained some more in Fiji, moved up to Guadalcanal in the fall after fighting ended. He was in frontline combat at New Georgia, Bougainville, and landed in the Philippines and participated in the liberation of Manila (worst combat he was in, he said he'd rather fight in the jungle than house to house - too many places to hide and booby trap). Search 37th Division hill 700 bouganville and 37th division liberation of manila.

    I never heard about a particular day in combat, only days in R&R, Dad preferred to remember the good times.

    He offered me the following observations on war:

    Should you go to war or not: It depends on the war, but its your life and you decide if its worth dying for, don't let an idiot in the white house decide if YOUR life is worth it. He said in WWII, he had a mother and 2 sisters, and after hearing about the Rape of Nanking, it was worth his life to ensure his family never had to go through that. He said there were two kinds of wars, those you had to fight (worth your life), and bull shyt political wars usually started by a pip squeak who had never been shot at and seen his buddies with their guts hanging out and screaming until they died. Dad trusted guys like Ike and JFK to call that shot a lot more than LBJ and Nixon. His verdict on Vietnam, "knowing what I know about war, if drafted for this one, I'd go to Canada".

    In his late 70's and after a bad case of pneumonia, he got to have bouts of rage. He was admitted to a psych facility and prescribed medication and he was perfect after that until he neared death. The psychiatrist told my sister that in group, when they asked Dad what he was most proud of in his life, he said it was fighting for his country in WWII. He was as good a patriot as any I've seen, but he didn't think everyone in the White House was a great leader.

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    Re: Conscription- Would you serve?

    Unlikely. I'm hard-pressed to think of any plausible situation where the benefits of my participating in war would exceed the costs. Especially if it's one of the kinds of wars that the US has fought since World War II, where the justification has been dubious at best. I'd rather make the world a better place by helping with something like education or health care, rather than killing people.

    In any case, it seems highly unlikely to happen. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were the end of an era...possibly the last time we'll deploy a large number of ground troops to a battlefield. If you want to see the future of warfare, look at Pakistan or Yemen, where we're waging war with robots and where most Americans aren't even aware we're at war.
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