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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    That one in the red looks absolutely drunk on fried chicken.
    Its the sauce. The whole thing is ridiculous of both sides.

    But let them eat that hormone shot chicken. What the industry has done to chickens is sickening but am certain none of those in line are interested in that.

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    1) If that were true then why would the ACLU have ever gotten involved to assure us that Chick-fil-A has the right to an opinion free from bullying from politicians like Rahm? [...]
    Cite the bullying.

    Or do you mean where Rahm voiced his opinion? (I know what Rahm said, so best to save your time)

    The Chicken CEO has the right to voice his beliefs without official retribution, but part of the problem is that there was some fear that his beliefs were or would be transferred to the operation of his company, resulting in discrimination -- especially since it is a family owned business. And I don't think that is an unfounded fear. Problem is, difficult to prove, so best to just let his words pass without comment and keep an eye (public, I'm speaking of here) on his operation.

    Of course, the activists couldn't let it pass without mouthing off about it, and therefore the bad guy (in their eyes) winds up being portrayed as the victim by people they don't like (the right). Lose-lose for the activists, but that is not unusual when you let emotion overtake reason.

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    It certainly doesn't hurt. Do you really suppose that after this, Chick-fil-A will be doing less business than it was before?



    The pro-homosexuality side has managed to deceive itself into thinking that it is the majority, opposed only by a small, narrow-minded, bigoted fringe of a minority. They'd created this illusion through lies and intimidation, to make far too many of those who held the opposing view ashamed or afraid to say so. Up until recently, this truly stands among most successful applications of the principles of political correctness.

    The truth is, the majority of Americans still know that homosexuality is immoral, that “gay marriage” is wrong, and are opposed to both. This has been proven true every time the matter has come up on a ballot. Your side may have made people fearful of publicly speaking up for what they know is right, but the intimidation and bullying which accomplished this doesn't work in the voting booth.

    I think the Chick-fil-A controversy marks an important turning point. This is the point where your side pushed your ersatz “advantage” too far. You stretched the illusion, and it broke, revealing the truth that it is your side that is and will always be the fringe minority. A specific business was attacked because its owner is not afraid to stand up for wholesome moral values, and Americans turned out in drives to support that business, and by proxy, those values. I can hope that nearly all of those who showed up to support Chick-fil-A and Mr. Cathy will no longer allow themselves to otherwise be bullied out of openly saying what they believe about this issue.
    Those who don't support homosexual marriage are not the only people who can find themselves supporting Chick-Fil-A either.

    I believe homosexuals should have a right to be legally married (not religiously if said religion does not agree). However, when government leaders get involved by threatening to limit and Gerry-mander the business with red-tape bureaucracy to prevent it from being able to do business due to the political beliefs of that business's leaders...... that is where I draw the line.

    I support both the right for homosexuals to be legally married, as well as Chick-Fil-A's right to have an opinion on a political matter and not be punished or threatened to be punished by a government entity for having such opinion.
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Surprisingly, this is a real word.
    Of course it is...they are delicious

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Those who don't support homosexual marriage are not the only people who can find themselves supporting Chick-Fil-A either.

    I believe homosexuals should have a right to be legally married (not religiously if said religion does not agree). However, when government leaders get involved by threatening to limit and Gerry-mander the business with red-tape bureaucracy to prevent it from being able to do business due to the political beliefs of that business's leaders...... that is where I draw the line.

    I support both the right for homosexuals to be legally married, as well as Chick-Fil-A's right to have an opinion on a political matter and not be punished or threatened to be punished by a government entity for having such opinion.
    I agree with pretty much everything you say here, but I believe Bob does touch on a truth that support for SSM and gay rights (overall) is not as widely popular as some would have us believe.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Cite the bullying.

    Or do you mean where Rahm voiced his opinion? (I know what Rahm said, so best to save your time)

    The Chicken CEO has the right to voice his beliefs without official retribution, but part of the problem is that there was some fear that his beliefs were or would be transferred to the operation of his company, resulting in discrimination -- especially since it is a family owned business. And I don't think that is an unfounded fear. Problem is, difficult to prove, so best to just let his words pass without comment and keep an eye (public, I'm speaking of here) on his operation.

    Of course, the activists couldn't let it pass without mouthing off about it, and therefore the bad guy (in their eyes) winds up being portrayed as the victim by people they don't like (the right). Lose-lose for the activists, but that is not unusual when you let emotion overtake reason.
    With respect I believe it is bullying when a politician, from his/her position of power and influence, "opines" that a business not set up shop in town.

    It's uncertain if there is discrimination within Chick-fil-A. I agree he has the right to an opinion with official retribution (I think that means government bullying).

    The activists would have had far more success if they responded positively. If someone calls me a hateful bigot/crazy Christian, when in truth I'm just trying to follow the Word of God, I'm not going to really consider their views when they talk to/about us like that. There is wisdom in the saying that honey attracts more flies than vinegar.

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    This Is What Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day Looked Like (With Your Pictures, Stories, and Video) | Video | TheBlaze.com

    I love scrolling through these photos. Not a person of color in sight and more fat asses than I ever care to see. Guess this is the Republican voter of 2012?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Overall, they look older, wider, and whiter than the average American.
    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    That one in the red looks absolutely drunk on fried chicken.
    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    This Is What Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day Looked Like (With Your Pictures, Stories, and Video) | Video | TheBlaze.com

    I love scrolling through these photos. Not a person of color in sight and more fat asses than I ever care to see. Guess this is the Republican voter of 2012?
    So this is what the pro-homosexual side is now reduced to—puerile insults directed at random strangers. Less than a month ago, and for a long time up to that point, you thought you were winning this debate. Now it's clear that you know you are losing, badly.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    So this is what the pro-homosexual side is now reduced to—puerile insults directed at random strangers. Less than a month ago, and for a long time up to that point, you thought you were winning this debate. Now it's clear that you know you are losing, badly.
    It's not a failing cause, some just see an easy target and run with it. Chick Fil A was a stupid non-issue to begin with.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Chick-fil-A

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    So this is what the pro-homosexual side is now reduced to—puerile insults directed at random strangers. Less than a month ago, and for a long time up to that point, you thought you were winning this debate. Now it's clear that you know you are losing, badly.
    It is what it is.....I just find it rather telling that in all of those photos...there isn't a single person of color and a lot of people who look like they spend an awful lot of time eating fast food and sitting around listening to right-wing radio.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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