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    Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm?

    Do you believe Americans should have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm? Why or why not?

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    I don't see it as being necessary. If it's true that prospective gun owners already do some sort of class/training, an additional class on marksmanship seems unneeded. Seems to me like another way to hinder gun owners.

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Do you believe Americans should have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm? Why or why not?
    Nope.I know you being a New Yorker fail to realize this but the right to keep and bear arms is actually a constituion and its a constitutional right that that says shall not infringe, IE the government has no business restricting or requiring you to seek permission from the government to own a firearm.
    I think the reasonable alternative is to mandate firearm safety and usage classes in public schools. We have don't run with scissors, don't touch drugs, and don't talk to strangers safety classes for elementuary kids.We have sex ed classes for middle and high school kids and we have drivers ed for highschool students and schools generally have some sort of emergency drills.So why not mandate firearm safety and usage?This would ensure that future generations know know how to use firearms and how to safely handle them without actually making it a requirement that those purchasing firearms take a safety class.Elementuary kids can have coloring sheets and videos in in school on do not touch a firearm without adult supervision and to let an adult know when they see an unsecured firearm. Middle school and highschool kids can be taught with rubber ducks on how to properly handle firearms and highschool kids can be taught with firearm simulators, blanks, and something similar to M.A.C.S. and highschool seniers can be taught with live ammo.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Do you believe Americans should have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm? Why or why not?
    Do you believe that voters should have to get college educations? Do you believe that ANY other constituional right should be contingent upon "proving" that your are "worthy" of having it granted to you? While I agree that safety training for ALL in firearms safety and basic operation is a good idea, incorperating the typical 10 to 16 hour firearms safety/legal rights training course should be free public education not subject to massive fees. If the desire is to get more citizens to have this valuable training, for the benefit of our society, then it seems only logical to offer it as a gov't service for little to no cost, like our K-12 education system.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    ...and its a constitutional right that that says shall not infringe,
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
    You'd still be allowed to purchase and keep the firearm, you would just need to undergo training beforehand. Your right is not harmed in anyway.

    This would ensure that future generations know know how to use firearms and how to safely handle them without actually making it a requirement that those purchasing firearms take a safety class.Elementuary kids can have coloring sheets and videos in in school on do not touch a firearm without adult supervision and to let an adult know when they see an unsecured firearm. Middle school and highschool kids can be taught with rubber ducks on how to properly handle firearms and highschool kids can be taught with firearm simulators, blanks, and something similar to M.A.C.S. and highschool seniers can be taught with live ammo.
    I'll have to disagree with you there. We far behind in education compared to other countries and adding a firearm training class/course would take away from the important subjects such as math, science, and reading. It would also be useless if the students taught never go out and purchase a one. There's no reason to give extra work/training to students who may never want to/need to own a firearm.
    Last edited by Das Sozialist; 08-08-12 at 08:44 PM.

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Do you believe that voters should have to get college educations?
    Being able to vote and being able to posses a deadly weapon are two different things. You can't end someone's life by voting for President.

    I only believe you should go through marksmanship training before you're allowed to own a firearm, that's the only right I think you should have to 'prove' yourself for. If you're going to own a weapon, at least know how to use it.

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Being able to vote and being able to posses a deadly weapon are two different things. You can't end someone's life by voting for President.

    I only believe you should go through marksmanship training before you're allowed to own a firearm, that's the only right I think you should have to 'prove' yourself for. If you're going to own a weapon, at least know how to use it.
    Oh yes you can


    putting the wrong person in the white house often costs thousands of lives

    and merely possessing a gun does not do anything

    One of the reasons why I practice all the time with weapons is in case people like you get into positions of power

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    I don't think marksmanship training is necessary persay...many people will never fire their gun anyway, and most of those who do won't be aiming at another person. I think a simple safety test, akin to a driver's test, would be a good idea though: You answer a few basic questions about firearm safety, demonstrate with a weapon that you know the basics, and you get a permit that's good for X number of years or until you get caught doing something stupid with your gun. That doesn't pose a major burden to people who want to own guns, but it at least keeps the most irresponsible and untrained people from legally getting one.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh yes you can


    putting the wrong person in the white house often costs thousands of lives

    and merely possessing a gun does not do anything

    One of the reasons why I practice all the time with weapons is in case people like you get into positions of power
    So that you can engage in acts of political assassination!!!!! This is a terrible thing to say. It really has no place in civilized discourse.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So that you can engage in acts of political assassination!!!!! This is a terrible thing to say. It really has no place in civilized discourse.

    oh there are many cases where the cause of civilization would be advanced by the surgical removal of certain individuals.

    I guess if one worships government as an infallible GOD one might disagree. But I can think of hundreds of politicians, despots, tyrants and monarchs whose timely assassinations would have advanced human liberty and societal good

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