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Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm?

Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • No

    Votes: 40 83.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 8.3%

  • Total voters
    48
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

I realize to government worshippers, my posts may cause projective vomiting or disruptive bowel syndrome or other distress but the fact is, there are lots of power hungry control freaks. I fully believe that if such people get into positions of power and try to oppress others, its legitimate to shoot them.

the only people who should find this upsetting are would be dictators or Martinets. The main purpose of the second amendment's existence was to allow free men to take out dictators or oppressive government agents.

I don't worship government. I see it as a necessary evil. Not the all nurturing all wise earth mother some do

You have never ever ever been able to document with any evidence your GOVERNMENT WORSHIPPERS. They are simply straw men of your own invention and creation that exist only in the recesses of your imagination.

The only people disgusted by your repeated macho chest beating thumping bragging about killing people are reasonable civilized people.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You have never ever ever been able to document with any evidence your GOVERNMENT WORSHIPPERS. They are simply straw men of your own invention and creation that exist only in the recesses of your imagination.

The only people disgusted by your repeated macho chest beating thumping bragging about killing people are reasonable civilized people.

those who oppose honest people being armed are hardly reasonable or civilized
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

I realize to government worshippers, my posts may cause projective vomiting or disruptive bowel syndrome or other distress but the fact is, there are lots of power hungry control freaks. I fully believe that if such people get into positions of power and try to oppress others, its legitimate to shoot them.

:shock:
True or false: You believe Barack Obama is a power-hungry control freak trying to oppress others.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

those who oppose honest people being armed are hardly reasonable or civilized

And just who would that be exactly who opposes "honest people" from being able to own weapons?

You create these frankenstien monster strawman and pretend that they are real so you can rail against them. It is so silly as be a comedy of the absurd.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

:shock:
True or false: You believe Barack Obama is a power-hungry control freak trying to oppress others.

I think he hates America as it is constituted and wants to destroy suburban white america in order to pay off the urban areas. But I am far too smart to fall for your pathetic little trap
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

And just who would that be exactly who opposes "honest people" from being able to own weapons?

You create these frankenstien monster strawman and pretend that they are real so you can rail against them. It is so silly as be a comedy of the absurd.

You fail to understand that I am merely talking about possibilities. History is littered with once peaceful societies that become hell holes due to pernicious power hungry control freaks getting power. That you pretend it can never happen here is myopic and as the old adage goes

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

I think he hates America as it is constituted and wants to destroy suburban white america in order to pay off the urban areas. But I am far too smart to fall for your pathetic little trap

you might not have completely fallen, but you did just step in it. :lamo
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You fail to understand that I am merely talking about possibilities. History is littered with once peaceful societies that become hell holes due to pernicious power hungry control freaks getting power. That you pretend it can never happen here is myopic and as the old adage goes

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it

NO. You. Are. NOT. You talk about people who worship government and that is the reason they oppose your particular brand of ideological extremism.

And as always, when challenged you are impotent to actually point out any with any verifiable evidence to warrant such a ridiculous label.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

I think he hates America as it is constituted and wants to destroy suburban white america in order to pay off the urban areas. But I am far too smart to fall for your pathetic little trap

Really? Because it sure sounds to me like you just did.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

you might not have completely fallen, but you did just step in it. :lamo

wrong, Kandahar was trying to get me to threaten the president which he would then report. I think many people believe Obama hates AMerica as it is currently constituted-in fact there was an Asian based article on that very issue when Obama was running. and there is a book out now that has a persuasive argument that Obama is trying to rape and pillage suburban America for the benefit of the inner cities
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Really? Because it sure sounds to me like you just did.

You will believe what you want no matter what the facts are.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

fascism or authoritarian collectivism always starts as a lamb and ends up a werewolf

You still did not answer my questions.

So if you were required by law to take classes and get permits in order to talk on the phone,surf the internet, protest,be a member of a religion, write a book, be a member of the press your 1st amendment rights wouldn't be harmed in any way?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There is no leeway in the first amendment, you cannot prohibit the establishment or exercising of religion and you cannot abridge freedom of speech, press, or the right to assembly. That means no hindrance/reduction whatsoever. The second amendment is more vague, claiming:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

It says nothing about not being able to regulate it, in fact, it says specifically, a well regulated (controlled) militia is necessary to the security of a free state.

School classes are generally 7-8 hours a day and there is generally 6-7 classes a day.How would reading math, and science be hurt by adding a firearms safety and training course? After the 3 Rs there is 3-4 classes a day left.Firearms safety and usage doesn't have to be a everyday thing either,it can be taught once or twice a week.

Four basic classes, Math, History, Science, English. You also have physical education, a lunch period, and a health class. If they taught it during Physical Education, that may be an option that I'd agree with, maybe take a week out of each year to teach it. But to add it as a separate class? I'll still have to disagree with you.
 
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Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Do you believe Americans should have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm? Why or why not?

Marksmanship is a specialized skill. Requiring marksmanship training would be like only allowing NASCAR drivers to own a car.

I do think that in order to discharge it, you should have to prove the ability to safely do so. Like you have to in order to drive a car.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You still did not answer my questions.

My job is to spread light and not to master
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Right. Please let me know when you'd like to return to debating this topic.

YOu have been here for less than a month. My position is well known on this board. Owning a weapon is a fundamental constitutional right which existed prior to the constitution was even penned. Of course people should be able to competently use weapons. The more competence you have the less likely criminals will survive attacking you. and the more criminals who are center-punched by honest people, the better. but to merely own a weapon should not require any test

carrying one concealed on public property-that is a better argument for competence. but we know how "literacy tests" were used by racist whites to prevent blacks from voting. given how many left-wingers are hostile to people owning guns, I don't want to enable obstacles
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

wrong, Kandahar was trying to get me to threaten the president which he would then report. I think many people believe Obama hates AMerica as it is currently constituted-in fact there was an Asian based article on that very issue when Obama was running. and there is a book out now that has a persuasive argument that Obama is trying to rape and pillage suburban America for the benefit of the inner cities

Right wing whacko nut job paranoia disguised as a book.

I do not care how many people suffer from self imposed mental delusions of their own creation.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You have been here for less than a month. My position is well known on this board.

I apologize for not reading up on every member's political views before joining.

Owning a weapon is a fundamental constitutional right which existed prior to the constitution was even penned. Of course people should be able to competently use weapons. The more competence you have the less likely criminals will survive attacking you. and the more criminals who are center-punched by honest people, the better. but to merely own a weapon should not require any test.

But the point of the right is to be able to defend yourself and your country when need be, is it not? There's no reason to "merely own a weapon". If you're not going to do anything with it, why have it?
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Right wing whacko nut job paranoia disguised as a book.

I do not care how many people suffer from self imposed mental delusions of their own creation.

that comment really has no relevance and appears to be a knee jerk defense of your lord Obama without every understanding the argument or evidence presented by the author.

of course the Obama faithful consider anyone who sees Obama for the failure he really is as "mentally deluded"
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

I apologize for not reading up on every member's political views before joining.



But the point of the right is to be able to defend yourself and your country when need be, is it not? There's no reason to "merely own a weapon". If you're not going to do anything with it, why have it?

wrong again

there are many people who collect weapons for the sake of collecting them

I know people who have expensive samurai swords and have no clue how to properly draw such a weapon let alone use it as intended.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

that comment really has no relevance and appears to be a knee jerk defense of your lord Obama without every understanding the argument or evidence presented by the author.

of course the Obama faithful consider anyone who sees Obama for the failure he really is as "mentally deluded"

My "lord Obama"!?!?!?!? What ridiculous over the top nonsense you spew.

How can anyone understand your unnamed author of a untitled book when you have utterly failed to present other than saying it exists?

Even when you lamely attempt to introduce evidence you can only pretend to vaguely pretend that it exists.
 
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Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

My "lord Obama"!?!?!?!? What ridiculous over the top nonsense you spew.

How can anyone understand your unnamed author of a untitled book when you have utterly failed to present other than saying it exists?

Even when you lamely attempt to introduce evidence you can only pretend to vaguely pretend that it exists.

Its been all over the news

but it was funny seeing you dismiss it as mental delusions just because it attacks your Lord Obama
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

wrong again

there are many people who collect weapons for the sake of collecting them

I know people who have expensive samurai swords and have no clue how to properly draw such a weapon let alone use it as intended.

So the right isn't intended for defense of yourself, your family, and your country?

If you're going to purchase a weapon for collection, why not buy one without an ignition mechanism or a vital internal piece? You don't need a fully automatic/semi-automatic/single-shot functioning gun just for looks.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

The issue with guns is not whether or not people know how to accurately hit what they aim at. The issue is making sure that the people who get the guns can be trusted not to aim them at innocent people.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Its been all over the news

Then why are you utterly impotent to name it or its author?

I suspect that even someone on the fringes as you are would be embarrassed by the actual contents of such garbage so you avoid any real exposure of it to spare yourself a good taking to the woodshed.
 
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