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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It is interesting that anyone who criticizes the messiah Obama is labeled a "extreme right wing whacko with paranoid delusions"

    I guess the Clintons must be Extreme right wing whacks because they certainly have criticized His Eminence B H Obama
    He's not labeling you that because of criticism. He's labeling you that because you're assuming Obama wants to burn down the suburbs because he met with two guys who he used to know.

    you need to read better. I don't need to justify why I should be able to exercise a constitutional right even if my explanation is not suitable to someone who is clueless about rights or weapons.
    Clueless about rights and weapons? Care to explain how?

    and I never said anything about assassinating anyone over a safety test
    No, you didn't. But you did say you would assassinate someone with my beliefs if they came into political office, and the only belief you know I hold is the one about the marksmanship test.

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we can start with you proving your accusations of "right wing extremists" and "paranoid delusions"

    but the love of Obama is touching.

    I merely pointed out that these charges have been made against Obama. I proved that fact

    I win
    The link you provided is a perfect example of right wing paranoid delusions. Obama has a secret plot to burn down the suburbs and redistribute their wealth to the black criminals of the inner cities? And to you that is an example of mainstream thinking? To you that is normal discourse?

    Of course you offered it as an excuse to justify your talk of political assassinations of your political enemies.

    The word EXTREMISM does not begin to do justice you the entire sick affair.

    Yes Turtle - you indeed win the prize. No doubt about it.

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh yes you can


    putting the wrong person in the white house often costs thousands of lives

    and merely possessing a gun does not do anything

    One of the reasons why I practice all the time with weapons is in case people like you get into positions of power
    Here is what I said

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    He's not labeling you that because of criticism. He's labeling you that because you're assuming Obama wants to burn down the suburbs because he met with two guys who he used to know.



    Clueless about rights and weapons? Care to explain how?



    No, you didn't. But you did say you would assassinate someone with my beliefs if they came into political office, and the only belief you know I hold is the one about the marksmanship test.
    if you think NEED is a requirement to exercise a RIGHT you are , without a doubt, CLUELESS about the concept of a RIGHT

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    I will close for the night noting you do not need to prove you can drive a car to merely own one
    you can own a plane without having a pilot's license
    you can own a scapel, without being a licensed surgeon

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    T.

    The word EXTREMISM does not begin to do justice you the entire sick affair.

    this makes no sense whatsoever

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh yes you can


    putting the wrong person in the white house often costs thousands of lives

    and merely possessing a gun does not do anything

    One of the reasons why I practice all the time with weapons is in case people like you get into positions of power
    Here is what I said
    What? So you can hug me while holding your rifle?

    You followed it up by responding to haymarket:

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So that you can engage in acts of political assassination!!!!! This is a terrible thing to say. It really has no place in civilized discourse.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    oh there are many cases where the cause of civilization would be advanced by the surgical removal of certain individuals.
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    And you do not get to make that call.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually the purpose of having a well armed citizenry is to allow many to make that call
    "Surgical Removal" in this case is assassination/murder.

    if you think NEED is a requirement to exercise a RIGHT you are , without a doubt, CLUELESS about the concept of a RIGHT
    Do you believe you NEED to be stable, mentally, to be able to posses a firearm?

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    If the right constantly argues that Americans should have to get voter IDs in order to exercise their right to vote, I don't see why they'd have a problem with requiring training in order to exercise the 2nd amendment.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If the right constantly argues that Americans should have to get voter IDs in order to exercise their right to vote, I don't see why they'd have a problem with requiring training in order to exercise the 2nd amendment.
    I agree all people SHOULD have some training... the issue is that it would limit the right of the people to keep and bear arms

    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

    I guess everyone should have a college degree before they are allowed to exercise their right to freedom of speech... it's kinda the same thing.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    this makes no sense whatsoever
    yup - being a morning person this is what happens when I post late at night after a very long day. Here is the proper sentence

    The word EXTREMISM does not begin to do justice to you and the entire sick affair of advocating assassinations and using some whacko right wing writings to justify the thought.
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