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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And just who would that be exactly who opposes "honest people" from being able to own weapons?

    You create these frankenstien monster strawman and pretend that they are real so you can rail against them. It is so silly as be a comedy of the absurd.
    You fail to understand that I am merely talking about possibilities. History is littered with once peaceful societies that become hell holes due to pernicious power hungry control freaks getting power. That you pretend it can never happen here is myopic and as the old adage goes

    Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think he hates America as it is constituted and wants to destroy suburban white america in order to pay off the urban areas. But I am far too smart to fall for your pathetic little trap
    you might not have completely fallen, but you did just step in it.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You fail to understand that I am merely talking about possibilities. History is littered with once peaceful societies that become hell holes due to pernicious power hungry control freaks getting power. That you pretend it can never happen here is myopic and as the old adage goes

    Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it
    NO. You. Are. NOT. You talk about people who worship government and that is the reason they oppose your particular brand of ideological extremism.

    And as always, when challenged you are impotent to actually point out any with any verifiable evidence to warrant such a ridiculous label.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think he hates America as it is constituted and wants to destroy suburban white america in order to pay off the urban areas. But I am far too smart to fall for your pathetic little trap
    Really? Because it sure sounds to me like you just did.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    you might not have completely fallen, but you did just step in it.
    wrong, Kandahar was trying to get me to threaten the president which he would then report. I think many people believe Obama hates AMerica as it is currently constituted-in fact there was an Asian based article on that very issue when Obama was running. and there is a book out now that has a persuasive argument that Obama is trying to rape and pillage suburban America for the benefit of the inner cities

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Really? Because it sure sounds to me like you just did.
    You will believe what you want no matter what the facts are.

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    fascism or authoritarian collectivism always starts as a lamb and ends up a werewolf
    You still did not answer my questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So if you were required by law to take classes and get permits in order to talk on the phone,surf the internet, protest,be a member of a religion, write a book, be a member of the press your 1st amendment rights wouldn't be harmed in any way?
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    There is no leeway in the first amendment, you cannot prohibit the establishment or exercising of religion and you cannot abridge freedom of speech, press, or the right to assembly. That means no hindrance/reduction whatsoever. The second amendment is more vague, claiming:

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
    It says nothing about not being able to regulate it, in fact, it says specifically, a well regulated (controlled) militia is necessary to the security of a free state.

    School classes are generally 7-8 hours a day and there is generally 6-7 classes a day.How would reading math, and science be hurt by adding a firearms safety and training course? After the 3 Rs there is 3-4 classes a day left.Firearms safety and usage doesn't have to be a everyday thing either,it can be taught once or twice a week.
    Four basic classes, Math, History, Science, English. You also have physical education, a lunch period, and a health class. If they taught it during Physical Education, that may be an option that I'd agree with, maybe take a week out of each year to teach it. But to add it as a separate class? I'll still have to disagree with you.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Do you believe Americans should have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm? Why or why not?
    Marksmanship is a specialized skill. Requiring marksmanship training would be like only allowing NASCAR drivers to own a car.

    I do think that in order to discharge it, you should have to prove the ability to safely do so. Like you have to in order to drive a car.


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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    You still did not answer my questions.



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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    My job is to spread light and not to master
    Right. Please let me know when you'd like to return to debating this topic.

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