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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I have to agree with Haymarket, Turtle.

    No right is unlimited. Goes to the whole yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater.
    In context to the argument, I have to agree. There are plenty of morons around me with enough money to buy explosives and such. I do feel completely comfortable with close gunshots around me which is odd because I don't trust the drunk bastards to hit the broadside of a barn let alone whatever they're shooting at
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    In context to the argument, I have to agree. There are plenty of morons around me with enough money to buy explosives and such. I do feel completely comfortable with close gunshots around me which is odd because I don't trust the drunk bastards to hit the broadside of a barn let alone whatever they're shooting at
    no one has claimed that the right is unlimited so its stupid to pretend someone did. But Many of us do not believe the federal government has the proper authority to tell citizens what sort of small arms they can own. No one disputes the right of the several states to limit USE of small arms

    I do not believe that a governmental unit that issues certain weapons to CIVILIAN employees can be allowed to say that other civilians cannot even own them.

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no one has claimed that the right is unlimited so its stupid to pretend someone did. But Many of us do not believe the federal government has the proper authority to tell citizens what sort of small arms they can own. No one disputes the right of the several states to limit USE of small arms

    I do not believe that a governmental unit that issues certain weapons to CIVILIAN employees can be allowed to say that other civilians cannot even own them.
    I didn't read past this page so I assumed that somebody claimed that it was unlimited.
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    I didn't read past this page so I assumed that somebody claimed that it was unlimited.
    nope, that would mean you could set up a belt fed fifty on times square and shoot pigeons

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    use moving targets, lawyers and politicians.....
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    use moving targets, lawyers and politicians.....
    maybe you and I should have a duel. I suspect you will lose. On the other hand, you'd do ok against the current regime's leaders I suspect

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nope, that would mean you could set up a belt fed fifty on times square and shoot pigeons
    Pigeons are flying rats though....
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Pigeons are flying rats though....
    agreed, at one time in my life-where it was legal, I was one hell of a live pigeon shooter. I just never bet the big bucks though

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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    agreed, at one time in my life-where it was legal, I was one hell of a live pigeon shooter. I just never bet the big bucks though
    Sounds like a smashing time. I'd be more inclined to go duck hunting than competive bird shooting
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    Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Sounds like a smashing time. I'd be more inclined to go duck hunting than competive bird shooting
    I hunted ducks once. didn't like it. I had pet ducks in our pond. but pigeons carry histoplasmosis here in the Ohio Valley. A late judge I respected lost much of his eyesight when he contracted that nastiness because pigeons roosted by his air conditioning unit and he breathed pigeon crap

    box pigeons is great. imagine a small baseball field you are on home plate and the pigeons come out of traps where the second base is. you gotta drop them before they clear a low fence.

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