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Thread: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I'm not saying what Reid did was the right thing to do, but you're analysis that it was bad politics for him to do it is insane. People are STILL talking about his tax returns. It's worked exactly the way I think Harry Reid wanted it to work.
    They were talking about it long before Reid opened his mouth...where were you? The reps were even talking about it in the primaries.

    And if Reid has squat proof against Romney, it will make the Democrats look childish.

    Use your head - this is not some first time Senator...this is the Democrat leader in the Senate.

    If it turns out he was lying - it definitely damages their credibility...at least in the short term.

    Reid should of used an aid to leak it to the media...not come out and said it himself, especially if his 'source' has squat or never existed.


    Remember, there is zero factual evidence (so far) that Romney has done anything wrong.

    But now there is mounting evidence that one of the most important Democratic politicians is at best, a gossip.

    At worst, a liar.


    If Reid turns out to have nothing substantial on Romney - this will (imo) hurt the Dems way more then Romney.
    Last edited by DA60; 08-08-12 at 11:05 AM.

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Actually Willard's tax dodge wasn't simple business write offs but a rather obscure ruling by the IRS inwhich earnings at Bain were counted as capital gains and not income. Capital gains have a very low taxation rate compared to wages. Very few wage earners get such treatment, the biggest difference is the fund managers get to call their year end bonus a capital gain, and that 'bonus' is actually their paycheck in a lump sum. (Is why there was such an angry cry over any talk of not paying the 'bonuses' when the stock market crashed. The 'bonus' was a tax sheltered paycheck, not a true bonus.)

    No doubt Willard FILED each year, just what he PAID is the question.

    And yes Harry is getting just what he wants, suspicion the rich dodge taxes in ways the working man could never.

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Start a business then, you get lots of write offs.
    Why do you think I have to pay more than most peopel at my income level?

    Romney earns millions but between his charitable giving and business write offs he gets down to 13%.
    So he games the system designed to be gamed by people like him.

    He still pays more per year than you, me and just about everyone else in this forum pays put together, quit your whining.
    So because you don't have anything intelligent to say about the problem, you choose to spout nonsense instead?
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why do you think I have to pay more than most peopel at my income level?



    So he games the system designed to be gamed by people like him.



    So because you don't have anything intelligent to say about the problem, you choose to spout nonsense instead?
    You think it's nonsense that Romney pays more tax than all of us in this forum put together?


    WASHINGTON—GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney paid a 14% effective income tax rate in 2010 after making $3 million in tax-deductible charitable donations and drawing most of his income from investments, according to a summary of Mr. Romney's 2010 tax form provided by his campaign.

    Mr. Romney reported $21.7 million in income. He paid $3 million in federal taxes,

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You think it's nonsense that Romney pays more tax than all of us in this forum put together?
    Well, yeah. That's something you made up while knowing sweet **** all about how much anyone else on teh forum pays in taxes each year. I'd guess that you'd be very surprised at the income levels of many people here.

    But even more importantly, your statement was nonsense because it has absolutely no bearing on what is actually being discussed.
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not "while minimizing his tax exposure". Not "did he count losses against his gains". Did he go a full 10 years without paying taxes.
    I honestly doubt it. Romney probably paid the minimum among of taxes he was legally require to pay. But for a guy like him with an army of the world's best accountants and tax lawyers at his command, he probably paid very little, and might even have legally paid nothing.
    I think this is a brilliant maneuver by Ried. It puts Romney between a rock and a hard place because if he releases the returns it wil ruin him. If he doesn't, there's a cloud of suspicion hanging over him. And since Ried has done this all on his own, Obama is totally insulated.
    Obama owes Ried a steak dinne after he gets reelected.

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not "while minimizing his tax exposure". Not "did he count losses against his gains". Did he go a full 10 years without paying taxes.

    This is a lovely little trap for the Mittster. The only out he has is to release his tax returns, and by not doing that he pretty much acknowledges guilt instead of proving guilt. Double edged and I didn't think Harry Reid was that smart.

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    This is a lovely little trap for the Mittster. The only out he has is to release his tax returns, and by not doing that he pretty much acknowledges guilt instead of proving guilt. Double edged and I didn't think Harry Reid was that smart.
    Reid is NOT that smart.

    Reid didn't start this Romney tax return talk...it started in the primaries. At one point, it was BIG talk in the primaries. Of course it was going to be a big deal in the election.

    All Reid did was become the poster boy for the Dems on it.

    And if it turns out he has little/no evidence...then he looks stupid. Sorry...stupidER.

    And so does Obama to anyone with political common sense...as this is obviously being done with Obama's approval; if not his (or someone on his staff's) urging.


    I still hope Romney does NOT release the returns.

    They are NO ONE's business but his and I am sick of this PC crap.

    But I assume, if he continues to trail in the polls, that he will eventually release them...pity.
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    [QUOTE=Tucker Case;1060777856]Well, yeah. That's something you made up while knowing sweet **** all about how much anyone else on teh forum pays in taxes each year. I'd guess that you'd be very surprised at the income levels of many people here.

    But even more importantly, your statement was nonsense because it has absolutely no bearing on what is actually being discussed.[/
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    The op was was about dirty Harry's allegation that Romney paid no taxes in 10 years. I pointed out a tax bill he paid in that time frame and gave a specific number which proves Harry is a liar. Seems like that has bearing to me but I have to remember I am trying to have an intelligent conversation with a "conservative" like the ones that call cspan and say, "I'm a conservative but" then they recite ever Dem talking point. I don't know what you guys think you accomplish with this act.

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    I dont know... There is really no way to know unless he releases his tax returns. But Reid just pulled this one out of his ass for total political purposes.


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