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Thread: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yup - you are right about that obligation.

    But what does that have to do with the man who wants to lead America and its people showing that they are a patriot who puts the nation first in their own financial and economic decisions?
    There is nothing unpatriotic about paying only what taxes you owe.


    I reject that notion - and I call upon all other conservatives to reject - and refuse to call President Obama an unpatriotic man who puts the nation behind his own narrow financial interests, just because he takes advantage of the credits and loopholes in the tax code to reduce his tax bill.

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Actually it does, because one of those things is criminal.

    I realize that there is a certain kind of mindset that wishes to criminalize 32-oz soda's and thinks that failure of equality of result indicates bias within a system, and therefore may have difficulty understanding this, but there is nothing inherently illegal about a tax result that you don't like.
    Tax havens are legal by virtue of being tax havens. They are still perceived as culturally and morally subversive.
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You seem to not understand. Mittens wants to be the leader of America. Mittens wants to lead 311 million American people. As such, I want a patriot who both loves the nation and loves its people in that position of power and authority. I want to know that this person places America and its people above all other factors - and that includes their own financial greed be it done legally or otherwise.

    I can tell you with 100% certainty and am willing to put up my $10 grand against yours or anyone else that I absolutely without a doubt gave the federal government a higher percentage of my earnings last year than Mittens did.

    you are being dishonest because you are counting FICA

    that isn't a progressive tax and it doesn't apply to investment income

    I also not Romney paid far more in actual tax dollars to the federal government than you did and he is not living off of the tax dollars of others

    so what was society's net take from you vs Romney?

    answer-Romney did more for society when it comes to financial contributions than you did (or I did or most of us did)

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Tax havens are legal by virtue of being tax havens. They are still perceived as culturally and morally subversive.
    Morally subversive by who

    parasitic politicians

    envious losers who are mad that others aren't being taxed even more?

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fantastic. Post your numbers, please.
    Put up your $10 grand and you can see those numbers.
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Morally subversive by who

    parasitic politicians

    envious losers who are mad that others aren't being taxed even more?
    By people who perceive that hoarding wealth overseas threatens economic growth.
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are being dishonest because you are counting FICA
    Dishonest!?!?!?!?!??! I am counting the taxes I pay to the federal government and the exact same taxes in the same categories that Mittens pays to the federal government.

    That is 100% perfectly and completely honest.
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There is nothing unpatriotic about paying only what taxes you owe.


    I reject that notion - and I call upon all other conservatives to reject - and refuse to call President Obama an unpatriotic man who puts the nation behind his own narrow financial interests, just because he takes advantage of the credits and loopholes in the tax code to reduce his tax bill.
    Of course you reject it. Of course you call on others on the right to reject it. It makes Mittens look bad and your priority is electing him. So its only predictable that you reject such a standard.

    But I suspect lots of Americans do NOT reject it. See the poll released today which shows 2/3 of Americans now view Mittens as a person who favors the rich.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...d-over-romney/

    While Romney's favorable rating has remained steady (47% now compared to 48% in July), his unfavorable rating has jumped from 42% last month to 48% now. The president's 56%-42% favorable-unfavorable rating now is little changed from July.

    Among independents, the poll indicates Romney's image has taken a beating. In May, only 40% of independents had an unfavorable view of Romney. Now, 52% of independents have a negative view of him.

    Other findings:
    Sixty-four percent of all Americans, and 68% of independents, think Romney favors the rich over the middle class. And 63% of the public thinks Romney should release more tax returns than he has already made public, a figure which rises to 67% among independents.
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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Tax havens are legal by virtue of being tax havens. They are still perceived as culturally and morally subversive.
    Really. Me saving for my Childrens' college eduction is morally subversive? Saving for retirement in an IRA is culturally subversive? Saving for medical expenses in an HSA is morally or culturally subversive? Employers deducting the money they spend on their employees healthcare is seen as immoral or corrupt? Deducting the interest on your mortgage is morally subversive?

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    Re: Did Mitt Romney go a full 10 years without paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yup - you are right about that obligation.

    But what does that have to do with the man who wants to lead America and its people showing that they are a patriot who puts the nation first in their own financial and economic decisions?
    It doesn't tell me anything, but that he is financially smart. Being a patriot has nothing to do with how much you pay in taxes. There is no "putting the nation first" in your own financial and economic decisions. Business is business, and taxes are a legal, not moral, obligation. I don't tend to judge a president by his feelings and false proclamations, but by his sense and ability to make sound judgements. We don't need a daddy, nor a mommy, but a strong leader who has some actual working ideas and understands how an economy works, not just what he envisions the nation should be.
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