View Poll Results: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

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  • No, he was right

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    Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Do you think Karl Marx was a bad person for devising Marxist-style communism?

    I'm not endorsing his viewpoints with this thread, I'm just seeing what everyone's opinion is.
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    No.
    He was a philosopher, critiquing capitalism, history, and what comes next in history.
    He was right on some points and wrong on other points.
    But no he was not a "bad person".
    So i voted "IDK/Other"


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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    I don't know that I'd call him a "bad person." He was doing what he thought was right. But aside from being fantastically wrong about almost everything, his writings just drip with disdain for the world. He seems like he was a pretty unhappy person.
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    When professed Milton Freedman loving capitalists call Karl Marx "evil", I take pleasure in knowing they wouldn't know how to define "capitalism" if it wasn't for Marx's work.
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    When professed Milton Freedman loving capitalists call Karl Marx "evil", I take pleasure in knowing they wouldn't know how to define "capitalism" if it wasn't for Marx's work.
    Some of Marx's works is Marx praising capitalism actually.


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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Some of Marx's works is Marx praising capitalism actually.
    Das Kapital is by far the most important works in economics since the Code of Hammurabi. Adam Smith's weak sauce simply doesn't hold a candle to the theoretics laid out by Marx in terms of labor force, division of labor, anomie etc.
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Das Kapital is by far the most important works in economics since the Code of Hammurabi. Adam Smith's weak sauce simply doesn't hold a candle to the theoretics laid out by Marx in terms of labor force, division of labor, anomie etc.
    Das Kapital is a great series (that is, if it doesnt put you to sleep within the first 50 pages )


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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    I don't think any of the answers really fit it. I'm not a Marxist, but the man was an extraordinary and brilliant thinker. He advanced the debates in so many fields it is almost impossible to count. Even areas like literary criticism were changed, completely, by his work. That doesn't mean that all those fields he affected became Marxist, but he progressed the debate, added a truly original perspective, and spawned all kinds of ideas. One of the most important thinkers in the last 500 years. So, was he "right"? I don't really even think that is the appropriate question. Political theory and philosophy, and to some extent even economics, don't work that way. There is no "right philosophy" and "wrong philosophy".

    But, I'm going to vote for "right" because that is closer to the mark than "misguided". He figured out a lot of things we didn't really understand before him and his thinking was a massive contribution, even if his economic model didn't really pan out.
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    I don't fit into any of the poll categories. Marx was a genius whose intellect and eloquence are undeniable. He diagnosed the evils of capitalistic society of his time, some obvious, some intricate. He made predictions about the future which mostly were false, but had a better record of predictions than most political scientists in history.

    The fact is that while his political and economic views are widely disparaged in academia today, his ideas about history, culture, society, literature, religion, and the like are as relevant to day as the ideas of any other thinker. Sociology, history, and literary theory (among many others) would not exist today were it not for his prescient and relevant input. In terms of history, my profession and expertise, I view Marxist dialectical materialism not as a dogmatic truth--who could cling to this notion?--but as one among many other indispensable tools in understand historical processes. The underlying economic bases to political superstructures, and the course of the class conflict are essential to analyzing history in modern academia.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Marx made a few insightful critiques a capitalism combined with an unworkable utopia fantasy. Being wrong doesn't make you a bad person, especially since Marx didn't live to see the attempts to implement his ideology.

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