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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Marx made a few insightful critiques a capitalism combined with an unworkable utopia fantasy. Being wrong doesn't make you a bad person, especially since Marx didn't live to see the attempts to implement his ideology.
    And, to be fair, nobody ever actually implemented what he proscribed. For example, he saw communism as happening after capitalism had played out- well in the future still. He didn't think it would work before that.

    I actually think that whatever system comes after capitalism will have some of the aspects he described. Not necessarily all that close to what he predicted, but probably closer to that than to anything anybody else predicted that long ago. Heck, back then we didn't even have anything that really resembled modern day capitalism yet and he was already trying to predict what would happen AFTER capitalism. It is an ambitious thing to attempt to say the least.
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Marx made a few insightful critiques a capitalism combined with an unworkable utopia fantasy. Being wrong doesn't make you a bad person, especially since Marx didn't live to see the attempts to implement his ideology.
    Not that I care, but you should probably read Das Kapital before you say Marx had a "a few" insightful thoughts of any kind. The man is for all intended purposes an intellectual juggernaut in the economics world. His work is so ridiculously influential that before him, "capitalist" simply meant somebody with money. Could you imagine?
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Marx did'nt come up with communism .... communism as a concept has existed over the centuries ...

    Marxism isn't an economic system, its an analysis of Capitalism, and to this date its analysis hasn't ever been refuted and is to this day one of the best.

    Most of the people that hate Marx havn't read Marx.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Marx is a free trade, open borders, globalist, elitist. Yes he's evil.
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Marx mixed clean and muddy water. He said lots of good thing and some things that are not so good and are pure ideology. That doesn't make him evil, just a sophist. But being perfect is pretty hard, almost impossible, anyways.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

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    Das Kapital is a great series (that is, if it doesnt put you to sleep within the first 50 pages )
    it put me to sleep within the first 50 pages
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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Marx mixed clean and muddy water. He said lots of good thing and some things that are not so good and are pure ideology. That doesn't make him evil, just a sophist. But being perfect is pretty hard, almost impossible, anyways.
    A sophist IS evil (since he's intentionally trying to mislead people).

    But tell me what things were not so good and pure ideology? In Capital ...

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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    A sophist IS evil (since he's intentionally trying to mislead people).
    Not necessarily. A sophist is just ignorant about some things. But who doesn't?

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    But tell me what things were not so good and pure ideology? In Capital ...
    The Communist manifesto for instance.

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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    Not necessarily. A sophist is just ignorant about some things. But who doesn't?
    The definition of a sophist is someone who deliberately missleads people ... If your ignorant your not misleading deliberately.

    The Communist manifesto for instance.
    Yeah, very early Marx, it was a pamphlet ....

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    Re: Was Karl Marx a bad person?

    "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

    I don't think he was necessarily intent on evil, but he did help create the greatest evil ever produced by mankind. Socialism.

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