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    If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racist

    What do you think? Is there any plausible reason to favor this discriminatory marriage policy, other than bigotry/racism?
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Nice attempt at a straw man to link interracial marriage with SSM.
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Nice attempt at a straw man to link interracial marriage with SSM.
    Whatever could you possibly be talking about?
    If it's not motivated by bigotry, then why should it matter which group is being discriminated against?
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Whatever could you possibly be talking about?
    If it's not motivated by bigotry, then why should it matter which group is being discriminated against?
    Discrimination isn't inherently wrong, I'm sure you are trying to link banning interracial marriage with SSM as if they are equivalent. The two are not equal, and discriminating based on someone's race is not the same as discrimination based on sexual orientation or defined gender roles. I'm sure you are trying to indirectly say that those who don't support SSM are akin to those that would ban interracial marriage. We also ban polygamous marriage relationships. We discriminate against a person who thinks that he/she can have more than one wife/husband. Is that bigotry?
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Discrimination isn't inherently wrong, I'm sure you are trying to link banning interracial marriage with SSM as if they are equivalent. The two are not equal, and discriminating based on someone's race is not the same as discrimination based on sexual orientation or defined gender roles. I'm sure you are trying to indirectly say that those who don't support SSM are akin to those that would ban interracial marriage. We also ban polygamous marriage relationships. We discriminate against a person who thinks that he/she can have more than one wife/husband. Is that bigotry?
    I think they are the same. Both strike to the core of the person with no valid reason, no just reason to discriminate.

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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Discrimination isn't inherently wrong, I'm sure you are trying to link banning interracial marriage with SSM as if they are equivalent. The two are not equal, and discriminating based on someone's race is not the same as discrimination based on sexual orientation or defined gender roles. I'm sure you are trying to indirectly say that those who don't support SSM are akin to those that would ban interracial marriage. We also ban polygamous marriage relationships. We discriminate against a person who thinks that he/she can have more than one wife/husband. Is that bigotry?
    Nope, everyone is allowed the same rights (or lack thereof) to polygamy. And if a married person finds someone they want to marry, that avenue is still open to them (provided they first get a divorce); bans on interracial marriage or same-sex marriage close that door entirely, because people are denied that right on account of who they ARE rather than what they previously DID. Furthermore, polygamous relationships have negative consequences to society that are wholly absent in interracial marriages and/or same-sex marriages.
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nope, everyone is allowed the same rights (or lack thereof) to polygamy. And if a married person finds someone they want to marry, that avenue is still open to them (provided they first get a divorce); bans on interracial marriage or same-sex marriage close that door entirely. Furthermore, polygamous relationships have negative consequences to society that are wholly absent in interracial marriages and/or same-sex marriages.
    Not legally, a man or woman cannot legally have 2+ wives/husbands. Your argument is identical to many who are against SSM when they say "homosexuals do have the right to marry, they can legally marry someone of the opposite gender and marriage has not been denied to them."
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    I can remember when inter-racial DATING was just as "horrifying" as SSM is today. Humans in general and Americans in particular are slow to adapt.

    It's called progress.

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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    ...so I remember White and Colored restrooms. Colored folk weren't denied the right to piss, they just couldn't do it where white folks pissed.


    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Not legally, a man or woman cannot legally have 2+ wives/husbands. Your argument is identical to many who are against SSM when they say "homosexuals do have the right to marry, they can legally marry someone of the opposite gender and marriage has not been denied to them."

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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Not legally, a man or woman cannot legally have 2+ wives/husbands. Your argument is identical to many who are against SSM when they say "homosexuals do have the right to marry, they can legally marry someone of the opposite gender and marriage has not been denied to them."
    No they are not equivalent. John does not have the right to marry Bill, but Sue does. That is discrimination. This is simply not the case with laws against polygamy...the person still can marry whomever they want, they just have to get a divorce first. Furthermore, getting married is something that you DID of your own volition, which can be undone relatively easily. Being born a certain race or certain gender is something you ARE, not something you DID.

    But nice try making this about polygamy. Didn't *you* just attack *me* for "making a straw man"? Why don't you explain the distinction between interracial marriage and same-sex marriage, if one exists?
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