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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Culture does have significance, which is exactly why it ought to be expanded.
    But my culture is independent of my race. I grew up in a different culture than the culture of my racial origins. And that is true for the overwhelming majority of Americans.

    And in that case, I would be identifying with a culture that CURRENTLY exists, and that I am PERSONALLY involved in. Not a by-gone culture that I have nothing to do with.

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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Sounds like it might be fun to me, lol. Everyone needs to get in touch with the wild side every now and then.

    And no, it wouldn't dilute or destroy anything, but would likely add some new dimensional qualities to the newly created human.


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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    I do NOT hate our founding father's. Here let me give you an example, if i bring you a wild man from the bush's of papua new guini, who run's around naked dancing around a fire, and never bath's, and then i bring him and introduce him to your refined, civilized, intelligent, and modern adult daughter, and they get together and create a child, you don't think something got dilliuted and destroyed?
    His bathing habits or other lack of things we consider part of civilized culture are independent of his race.

    What if your modern daughter married Clarence Thomas? What would be destroyed there? (just set aside that he's already married -- to a white woman)
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Come on, that is entirely hypocritical, it's the exact same argument that the anti-gay-marriage people make, everyone has the same rights for marriage, they can all get married to someone of the opposite sex.
    No. With polygamy everyone *does* have the same rights. With same-sex marriage, they do not. With bans on same-sex marriage, your right to marry a woman is determined by whether you are male or female. That's discrimination. No such discrimination exists with bans on polygamous situations, unless you're talking about "discriminating" against already-married people versus unmarried people. And that's a decision that YOU made and which YOU can reverse, whereas your gender was something that you were born with (in most cases).
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    On top of that, you have just argued against polyamorous marriage in an extremely hypocritical way that's exactly the same garbage people use to deny SSM, and you don't even realize you've done it.
    The government can and does discriminate against people for their actions (such as marriage); if you've ever claimed a tax deduction for anything, you're an accessory to this. If you support laws incarcerating criminals but not non-criminals, you support this kind of discrimination too. But discriminating against someone because of their race or gender is discriminating against someone for what they ARE, not what they DID.
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    To me, one of the only differences between the same sex marriage and interracial marriage debates, is that the latter has already been resolved.
    Exactly. Anti-gay people will sputter and whine about the comparison, but they're never able to draw a distinction between same-sex marriage and interracial marriage. What it really boils down to is that it's still socially acceptable (in some parts of the country) to openly support discrimination against gays, whereas there aren't many places where it's still socially acceptable to openly support racial discrimination.
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No. With polygamy everyone *does* have the same rights. With same-sex marriage, they do not. With bans on same-sex marriage, your right to marry a woman is determined by whether you are male or female. That's discrimination. No such discrimination exists with bans on polygamous situations, unless you're talking about "discriminating" against already-married people versus unmarried people. And that's a decision that YOU made and which YOU can reverse, whereas your gender was something that you were born with (in most cases).
    Sorry, not so. Equality in marriage is being able to marry who you want. If that happens to be 11 people, so what?
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Discrimination isn't inherently wrong, I'm sure you are trying to link banning interracial marriage with SSM as if they are equivalent. The two are not equal, and discriminating based on someone's race is not the same as discrimination based on sexual orientation or defined gender roles. I'm sure you are trying to indirectly say that those who don't support SSM are akin to those that would ban interracial marriage. We also ban polygamous marriage relationships. We discriminate against a person who thinks that he/she can have more than one wife/husband. Is that bigotry?
    What? They are equivalent. You can't change your sexual orientation, just like you can't change your race. It's bigotry, plain and simple. It's not a necessity to be a polygamist, you have a choice when it comes to that, you don't when it comes to race/sexual orientation.
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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    I voted yes he is...thats really a no brainer

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    Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    I do NOT hate our founding father's. Here let me give you an example, if i bring you a wild man from the bush's of papua new guini, who run's around naked dancing around a fire, and never bath's, and then i bring him and introduce him to your refined, civilized, intelligent, and modern adult daughter, and they get together and create a child, you don't think something got dilliuted and destroyed?
    I personally don't think cultures have value in and of themselves beyond the value that the life and welfare of the individuals within it. US culture is better in my view than middle east culture because it creates a better quality of life, longer life, less violent life, happier life (I assume), and a more rich life. Personally, I never understood the point of historical societies or preserving old cultures beyond any scientific info that could be gleaned, such as sociological info, farming techniques (or other skillsets), or anything that can be used to enhance other cultures. Intentionally doing something in some nonoptimal way because "its my culture" is replacing intelligence with emotion.

    I probably do not have a typical opinion though.
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