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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    1. 2 failed wars.
    2. high oil prices.
    3. housing crisis.
    4. 4,000 dead Americans in Iraq/Afghanistan.
    5. 3,000 dead American civilians on the largest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor
    6. Weak candidates for SCOTUS.
    7. Plame affair.
    8. Katrina/Rita
    9. Patriot Act
    Not that I want to re-argue Bush's record with any Liberal (you guys have gone way, WAY off the deep end on this subject), but you should probably know some facts:

    1. Saddam: Dead. Taliban: Neutralized. Not really seeing the failure.
    2. Gas price when Obama took office: $1.79. Now: 3.59. More than double. Obama increased gas prices more than Carter did, ffs.
    3. The housing crisis was Bush's fault? Really? How do arrive at that “logic”?
    4. A repeat of #1, and you're forgetting that the wars were approved by the vast majority of Democrats as well as the American People.
    5. That's Bush's fault too, eh? Seven (7) months into his Presidency? Does Clinton share any of the blame for dismantling our intelligence services during his term? One last question, is Bush STILL to blame for Obama's failures, almost four years later? I thought so.
    6. Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, Kagan and the Sotomayor are legal rock stars. SCOTUS insiders say that The Wise Latina can barely write. Yay, affirmative action.
    7. Plame affair? Really? Obama's White House is leaking classified information like a sieve, according to Diane Fienstein. So.
    8. Yes, we all know Bush created Katrina (and Rita) with his super-secret hurricane gun that Dick Cheney made in his laboratory. We also know that welfare recipients have no responsibility or obligation to get off the effing couch and get the hell out of the way when a natural disaster is on the way.
    9. The Patriot Act came up for renewal, didn't it? How did that turn out? Obama vetoed it because it was so wrong and heinous and eeevil, didn't he? Didn't he?

    All this is irrelevant, though, because Bush isn't on the ballot. Neither are his policies. Obama had four full years (half of them with a majority in both houses and a near monopoloy on the propaganda machine that USED to be the news). How's he doing?

    Obama had his chance, and failed miserably. We all saw it, although some choose not to.

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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    2012 Elections, Electoral College Projection - Election Projection

    All interesting information... I am in one of the states that is trending the wrong direction. Like elsewhere due to our one big city full of idiots. So I have to vote against the blue. Out here it matters.
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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    The debates have not yet started. I suspect once they do, Obama's lead will only increase. Lets face it, Romney isn't exactly the best orator, and Obama in my opinion is far more intelligent.
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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    Ive gone back and forth on this a couple of times...at first I thought any republican would win handily...then it went towards obama...then it was going heavily for romney....now its reversed again its going Obamas way....It can still change but I think Obama has a bit of momentum....everything HINGES on the debates now...as I see it anyway...no matter who romney picks as vp...if obama dominates the debates he wins...and the same goes for romney...just my opinion

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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    The debates have not yet started. I suspect once they do, Obama's lead will only increase. Lets face it, Romney isn't exactly the best orator, and Obama in my opinion is far more intelligent.
    If you take a look back, all of Obama's gaff's have been when he was off the teleprompter. There are no teleprompter's during the debates. So he could very will screw up pretty good. Add to that how he seems to get easily frustrated when questioned, your hoped for end result might not be as you expect.
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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Flash View Post
    Not that I want to re-argue Bush's record with any Liberal (you guys have gone way, WAY off the deep end on this subject), but you should probably know some facts:

    1. Saddam: Dead. Taliban: Neutralized. Not really seeing the failure.
    2. Gas price when Obama took office: $1.79. Now: 3.59. More than double. Obama increased gas prices more than Carter did, ffs.
    3. The housing crisis was Bush's fault? Really? How do arrive at that “logic”?
    4. A repeat of #1, and you're forgetting that the wars were approved by the vast majority of Democrats as well as the American People.
    5. That's Bush's fault too, eh? Seven (7) months into his Presidency? Does Clinton share any of the blame for dismantling our intelligence services during his term? One last question, is Bush STILL to blame for Obama's failures, almost four years later? I thought so.
    6. Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, Kagan and the Sotomayor are legal rock stars. SCOTUS insiders say that The Wise Latina can barely write. Yay, affirmative action.
    7. Plame affair? Really? Obama's White House is leaking classified information like a sieve, according to Diane Fienstein. So.
    8. Yes, we all know Bush created Katrina (and Rita) with his super-secret hurricane gun that Dick Cheney made in his laboratory. We also know that welfare recipients have no responsibility or obligation to get off the effing couch and get the hell out of the way when a natural disaster is on the way.
    9. The Patriot Act came up for renewal, didn't it? How did that turn out? Obama vetoed it because it was so wrong and heinous and eeevil, didn't he? Didn't he?

    All this is irrelevant, though, because Bush isn't on the ballot. Neither are his policies. Obama had four full years (half of them with a majority in both houses and a near monopoloy on the propaganda machine that USED to be the news). How's he doing?

    Obama had his chance, and failed miserably. We all saw it, although some choose not to.
    A. Most of this isn't fact, it is your own biased opinion.

    B.

    Obama has little to no effect on gas prices. Opec and the speculation markets control gas prices, and if I'm not mistaken, the president isn't one of them.

    The housing crisis was a direct result of not enough regulation on the banks and wallstreet. Glass Steagall was killed under the Clinton administration with strong support from Allan Greenspan. (who later said he regretted it)

    Bush is at fault for 9:11 for ignoring every single major ally that was sending us giant red flags months before 9:11, saying that there was an eminent attack going to happen on or around 9:11. Instead he ignored it and went on Vacation.

    Bush's failure under Katrina is quite obvious. He did was he has always done, stood there with a stupid look on his face when he should have been taking action... At least act like you give a ****.. seriously.

    I believe that Obama reauthorizing the Patriot act is directly related to the fact that we are still at war with the enemy that we created it for. Or it has just become so much of the status-quo that there is no hope of ever getting rid of it.



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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    One that follows the Constitution, remembers they are there for the country and it's citizens, and doesn't look at politics as a career.
    So not having a president and a congress is following the constitution?
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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    If you take a look back, all of Obama's gaff's have been when he was off the teleprompter. There are no teleprompter's during the debates. So he could very will screw up pretty good. Add to that how he seems to get easily frustrated when questioned, your hoped for end result might not be as you expect.
    Its not exactly my hoped for result. I may be a progressive but that does not mean I automatically support Obama. My emotional stance on the situation is "Anybody but Obama & Romney".

    I will vote Obama for one reason: Supreme Court, and the vacancies he gets to fill.
    Last edited by OnWisconsin; 08-03-12 at 01:24 PM.
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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    SCOTUS appointment unfortunately are totally partisan and have affected my vote in the past. The next 4 years don't seem to have any upcoming appointments. Just because I wake up each morning a stick pins in my Scalia voodoo doll doesn't mean that SOB will actually drop dead. Right now, the court is almost balanced, for better or worse.

    My prediction:
    Obama 49%
    Romney 48%
    3rd party 4%

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    Re: August Prediction Poll! Who will win - Obama or Romney?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Obama has little to no effect on gas prices.
    You say this, but in you'r list of 'Bush failures', listed the price of oil. I'll leave that up to others to figure out what it means.

    So not having a president and a congress is following the constitution?
    Of course not, but considering how poorly both have been doing for a long time in terms of following the Constitution and working for the people, we might have less damage done without any of them.
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