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If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homophobe

If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homophobe

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Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Navy Pride said:
They can have and opinion and not be a bigot or a homophobe......Why does that bother you so much?
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Hm...so are you pro theocracy? It's fine if you are, I'm not judging and that certainly doesn't make you a bigot or homophobe, but I am curious if you are.
 
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American said:
Hyperbole much? You obviously don't know what a theocracy is.
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Yes, the hyperbole was intentional. Doesn't take away my point though. Just because you believe your religion states that something is immoral doesn't mean it's okay for you to ban it for everyone else who disagrees with you, especially when legalizing something like gay marriage harms absolutely no one.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Not in Chrisian society.
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Yes, the Episcopalian church has accepted SSM marriage for some time now.

You're really not very informed on these issues.

You don't have any understanding of the current relevant social science, you don't really know the history of traditional marriage, and you're not aware that SSM has been accepted throughout history.

We're trying to help you get better informed and you keep running from facts and data.

You know the expression: you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
Yes, the hyperbole was intentional. Doesn't take away my point though. Just because you believe your religion states that something is immoral doesn't mean it's okay for you to ban it for everyone else who disagrees with you, especially when legalizing something like gay marriage harms absolutely no one.
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The key phrase there is 'you believe'. The whole anti-gay religion thing is based on a misreading of scripture -- people interjecting their own personal fears and insecurities into the bible and cherry-picking lines out of context to justify bigotry and hate. The bible is being turned on itself. Instead of love, the word of God is being used to justify hate.

I have yet to hear how they can be anti-gay and not anti-shrimp or anti-mixed threads.
 
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hazlnut said:
The key phrase there is 'you believe'. The whole anti-gay religion thing is based on a misreading of scripture -- people interjecting their own personal fears and insecurities into the bible and cherry-picking lines out of context to justify bigotry and hate. The bible is being turned on itself. Instead of love, the word of God is being used to justify hate.

I have yet to hear how they can be anti-gay and not anti-shrimp or anti-mixed threads.
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Right, which is why I included "you believe" in there.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

No, it doesn't make him a bigot or a homophobe. It indicates he holds to what he believes, which is typically based on his religion. If he had a hatred for gays, then a case could be made for bigotry and homophobia.
 
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Navy Pride said:
That is the desired situation but when you have a president like Hussein Obama throwing huge tax increases on you its impossible but that is another thread.......
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Well - it's just a bit annoying that I now have to consider this 'alternative' meaning to 'traditional marriage' from here on out and always have to clarify when ti comes up in a conversation.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
Right, which is why I included "you believe" in there.
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Yes. I know. That was the best part of your post IMO. They believe in a twisted version of Christianity. IMO.

This is the end result of their beliefs.

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hazlnut said:
Yes. I know. That was the best part of your post IMO. They believe in a twisted version of Christianity. IMO.

This is the end result of their beliefs.

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that's some really strange "body art"
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Well - it's just a bit annoying that I now have to consider this 'alternative' meaning to 'traditional marriage' from here on out and always have to clarify when ti comes up in a conversation.
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No need.

Those of us who have really read the bible know what they mean...

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I think...
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Everyone knows how I voted...I think someone that accuses others of being a homophobe and a bigot because they dont toe their line and totally agree with them...are the hateful suckers..
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

hazlnut said:
Funny, it was the GOP that just voted down the tax cut extension to the middle class.

Just yesterday.




Do you not own a tv or receive a newspaper?
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GOP wants tax cuts extended for everyone............They realize that if you raise taxes on the wealthy, the people that do the hiring in this country that there will be no jobs inflation will skyrocket and there is a good chance of another recession or worse a huge depression........I have said it before and will say it again, did a poor man ever offer you a job?........What is worse if the Bush tax cuts are not extended the 50% of the people in this country who pay no taxes would be getting huge tax increases..........
 
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Navy Pride said:
GOP wants tax cuts extended for everyone............They realize that if you raise taxes on the wealthy, the people that do the hiring in this country that there will be no jobs inflation will skyrocket and there is a good chance of another recession or worse a huge depression........
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The wealthy have been enjoying tax cuts, loopholes, tax credits, etc for the last four years...

Your premise makes for a nice talking point, not much else.


I have said it before and will say it again, did a poor man ever offer you a job?
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Another nice talking point with little real meaning in making any case.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Navy Pride said:
It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
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Not really.. But if they fight tooth and nail to stop gay marriage but don't even think about questioning divorce or polygamy then I assume that they are bigots.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

I voted no based on the wording of the OP. Simply “favoring” one form of marriage doesn’t make one a bigot. If you advocate PROHIBITING SSM by law, you may be one.

It is just like if you personally tend to only date people in your particular ethnicity. That is your personal proclivity. It doesn’t make you a bigot. If you say it is wrong for other people to date outside their ethnic group then you might be a bigot.
 
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hazlnut said:
The wealthy have been enjoying tax cuts, loopholes, tax credits, etc for the last four years...

Your premise makes for a nice talking point, not much else.




Another nice talking point with little real meaning in making any case.
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You let the Bush tax cuts expire and it will be the biggest tax increase in the history of the country.....You lefties keep advocating tax increases when the economy is struggling and you will be out on your butts just like Hussein Obama.
 
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TheLastIndependent said:
Not really.. But if they fight tooth and nail to stop gay marriage but don't even think about questioning divorce or polygamy then I assume that they are bigots.
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To me and Conservatives I know it really has very little to do with gay marriage, polygamy, marriage between relative or marriage with a rock...It only has to do with not redefining the definition of marriage......its as simple as that.
 
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What the hell is traditional marriage?

Surely it is not a marriage where you never cheat on your spouse or cheat on someone else's spouse. Traditional BSditional. There isn't more than one or two people here who can say they have that kind of traditional marriage.
 
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Navy Pride;1060756827yo said:
To me and Conservatives I know it really has very little to do with gay marriage, polygamy, marriage between relative or marriage with a rock...It only has to do with not redefining the definition of marriage......its as simple as that.
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Why don't you just try living your own life instead of every one else's?
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Navy Pride said:
You let the Bush tax cuts expire and it will be the biggest tax increase in the history of the country.....You lefties keep advocating tax increases when the economy is struggling and you will be out on your butts just like Hussein Obama.
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Um, that's not a tax increase.

That's taxes going back to normal levels.

BTW - those tax cuts were unfunded.

W. The gift that keeps on giving.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Navy Pride said:
In the last 3,000 years I believe marriage has been defined as a union between a man and a woman.
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No it hasn't. Sorry.
 
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winston53660 said:
Why don't you just try living your own life instead of every one else's?
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On that same note, why don't you?

Because it a state by state national issue.
 
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Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Objective-J said:
dont know and dont care not to mention its irrelevant :shrug: because just like in California they had lots of people that were in favor of it or werent against it that didnt vote but there were people against it that spent milions of dollars to rally people to thier cause and to buy votes, they won but that doesnt mean the majority of California are anti-gay LMAO
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ah. so your claim is that the nation is full of imaginary voters who are in favor of gay marriage, but who are... allergic to polling booths?

Im going off of polls of people that are asked if hey support equal gay rights or think being gay is immoral, right now and for the last two years I believe its been the majority support it and do not think its immoral, recently its been as high as 54%
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ah. then for this issue your problem is that you are looking at the wrong thing. Nationwide, support for homosexual marriage is about 50/50 in polling, but significantly less in those who actually vote.


It's worth noting, however, that that 50/50 split is a recent phenomenon.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Navy Pride said:
It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
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No offense but it makes that person (be it man or woman) ignorant of history at best...an idiot at worst. "Traditional marriages" use to include forced arranged marriages, it use to include not marrying someone because of their race, it also use to happen without a priest or even a witness present....just had to declare it. THAT is traditional marriage in the English sense. Of course it totally ignores other cultures where SSM was also the norm.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

I also favor traditional marriage ... for myself, but I don't care who other people marry ... Because its not my buisiness.
 
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