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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Depends, but more than likely it does mean that.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
    The likelihood is very high. Because as far as I can tell, a required link in the chain of logic is that allowing homosexuals to marry somehow demeans the institution. Which is a homophobic.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    It depends. Our numerical system is set in place by an international scientific and mathematical committee, if the members of that committee were apart of that billion people, they could vote on the change it. I for one have always supported adding a new number between 6 and seven called sel.

    But I know what you're getting on, and it's irrelevant to what I said. I was just pointing out that just because a large number of people believe something and/or have for a long time does not make it right. That's a logical fallacy, appeal to majority and appeal to tradition, respectively.
    Pot, meet kettle. Are you not using the argument from fallacy? Just because you can label what was said a fallacy does not mean that it is inaccurate.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    It depends on why. If there's a decent reason, then no. If it's simply an issue of personal preference, then yes. I don't like murderers because they kill people. Am I bigoted against murderers? No. I have a good reason.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Pot, meet kettle.
    Non-sequitur.

    Are you not using the argument from fallacy?
    No. I'm pointing out the logical fallacy American used, in which he assumed that just because lots of people believed something for a long time made it true.


    Just because you can label what was said a fallacy does not mean that it is inaccurate.
    I never discussed his conclusion.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
    Navy Pride will you ever cease your baseless attacks on Barack Hussein Obama? No, the President did not spend his first term in office as a homophobe, and I, for one, refuse to call the vast majority of the African Community "bigots" (unlike, it seems, five posters thus far) just because they have their own definition of marriage.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Ridiculous choices. I favor traditional marriages but I also think gay people should be allowed to marry. I also think anybody who believes gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry because of 'God' or because they are immoral are homophobes.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Not a joke -- a grim reality. The general direction of society is away from such anti-gay attitudes, but we're really talking about a cultural shift playing out over generations, not a momentary political battle. But, in short, yes, excluding homosexuals from political activity is clear bigotry on a wide scale.
    I am not anti gay anything as are most Americans........You can call your union anything you like......You can do anything you want in the bedroom.......what most Americans are against is redifining marriage......That is why state after state are voting on the issue and where close to 35 states have constitutional amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Navy Pride will you ever cease your baseless attacks on Barack Hussein Obama? No, the President did not spend his first term in office as a homophobe, and I, for one, refuse to call the vast majority of the African Community "bigots" (unlike, it seems, five posters thus far) just because they have their own definition of marriage.
    I will attack Hussein Obama with my dying breath and it saddens and surprises me that you as a Conservative do not feel the same way . I promise you one thing, I will cease my attacks on him when he is defeated in November. I will follow a Ronald Reagan commandment and I paraphrase. "That shall not attack a fellow Conservatives."
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
    Not necessarily. I prefer traditional marriage too -- for myself.

    But the moment you start telling other people how they are supposed to live, even support discrimination against them, then it is bigotry.
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