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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    So? A response. Again, "Do you mean that homosexuals are typically, on the whole, as bad as straights at respect and tolerance? This hasn't been my experience and I've had plenty of it."
    Read the article in that link. It answers your complaint.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    In the bible it was one man and any number of women and/or concubines. Later this went away, only two people!! Mormons brought it back for a bit, one man, many wives. Went away again. In the old testament, if a guy raped a virgin he had to marry her and pay her father some money for spoiling her. That... went out of style. Someone at some point decided interracial marriage was bad. Then we later decided it was fine. The concept of romance took a while to come along, it was just a legal contract between two families to start. People used to get married at like age 11. Some places people still do get married very young, others we make them wait to age 18. Would you like to hear what the Greeks, Romans, and Vikings thought about marriage or should I stop there? The vikings married a lot of women they... well, abducted. Pretty sure that's illegal now.

    Oh, I almost forgot. In some states and countries, two people of the same gender are married right now. Has your life changed as a result?
    And don't forget that the Old Testament had no age of consent. Makes the stories about pillaging enemy towns and taking the women as wives even more interesting...
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Heh heh.

    Well, as you surely know, the way your question is phrased, a "no" answer does not mean one opposes "gay marriage", it just means, as worded, one's own preference is for "traditional marriage", and dosn't say anthing at all about that "no"-voter's either support or opposition for "gay marriage".

    I think that's the reason you got so many "no" votes.

    There is a real contridiction here........I favor traditional marriage yet a lot of the people who voted no have called me a bigot.....
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There is a real contridiction here........I favor traditional marriage yet a lot of the people who voted no have called me a bigot.....
    ....maybe that conclusion is based not solely on this poll.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There is a real contridiction here........I favor traditional marriage yet a lot of the people who voted no have called me a bigot.....
    Well, any calibration from the wording of your poll will not, obviously, resolve the matter.

    So maybe you've been called a bigot by "gay marriage" supporters because you've openly stated your opposition to "gay marriage" .. just sayin' .. .. .

    Now, not that they are at all accurate in their epithetic denigration of you for that particular reason, as by appeal to definition, marriage, meaning "between a man and a woman as husband and wife", refutes bigotry as a reason for opposition to "gay marriage", as the term "gay marriage" is an oxymoron, inapplicable by appeal to definition.

    So, on that basis, false accusations of bigotry against you are .. well, simply that: false.

    Thus maybe there is another reason they're calling you a bigot .. I don't know, really.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There is a real contridiction here........I favor traditional marriage yet a lot of the people who voted no have called me a bigot.....
    Its not that you favor so called "traditional marriage" that makes you a bigot Navy....it is the fact that you believe that you have the right to force that view down the throat of everyone else. Your right to your views end when it directly impacts another person.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Now, not that they are at all accurate in their epithetic denigration of you for that particular reason, as by appeal to definition, marriage, meaning "between a man and a woman as husband and wife", refutes bigotry as a reason for opposition to "gay marriage", as the term "gay marriage" is an oxymoron, inapplicable by appeal to definition.

    So, on that basis, false accusations of bigotry against you are .. well, simply that: false.
    This is very interesting, and I hadn't thought about it this way before. Basically I agree with the bolded, and I would like to build on this argument. Would you please elaborate a bit on this?

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then
    So? A response. Again, "Do you mean that homosexuals are typically, on the whole, as bad as straights at respect and tolerance? This hasn't been my experience and I've had plenty of it."
    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Read the article in that link. It answers your complaint.
    Sorry, one example of the behavior of a few doesn't define the general case. I personally have been exposed to the behavior of both sides many times and straight men have the most abusive behavior by far.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Well, any calibration from the wording of your poll will not, obviously, resolve the matter.

    So maybe you've been called a bigot by "gay marriage" supporters because you've openly stated your opposition to "gay marriage" .. just sayin' .. .. .

    Now, not that they are at all accurate in their epithetic denigration of you for that particular reason, as by appeal to definition, marriage, meaning "between a man and a woman as husband and wife", refutes bigotry as a reason for opposition to "gay marriage", as the term "gay marriage" is an oxymoron, inapplicable by appeal to definition.

    So, on that basis, false accusations of bigotry against you are .. well, simply that: false.

    Thus maybe there is another reason they're calling you a bigot .. I don't know, really.


    Sorry I don't believe that being against gay marriage necessarily makes you a bigot or a homophobe.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its not that you favor so called "traditional marriage" that makes you a bigot Navy....it is the fact that you believe that you have the right to force that view down the throat of everyone else. Your right to your views end when it directly impacts another person.
    Not true in fact you are trying to force your beliefs and values on us.
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