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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    To Wake and others wondering why gays and straight allies can come across as so obnoxious:
    It's not just homosexuality that's at issue, and their straight allies, it's also the entire leftist alliance and a whole bunch of other issues that are...obnoxious.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    It's not just homosexuality that's at issue, and their straight allies, it's also the entire leftist alliance and a whole bunch of other issues that are...obnoxious.
    Did you even read the rest of the post?
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Did you happen to notice the results of this poll....Kind of make you shoveling **** against the tide.......
    I voted no.. It doesn't make you bigoted to favor traditional marriage. It only makes you a bigot if you seperate homosexuals and take their rights away.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I'm not interested in discussing this issue with you if you're going to twist my words, try to passive-aggressively turn this discussion against people, assuming things, etc. If you want a meaningful discussion from me you would have to modify your posts. Until then, no.
    Meh. Saying the extreme elements of any group should cease their extreme behavior because it hurts what the majority of their group is hoping to achieve, has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It is part of the human condition no matter to which group one belongs. You are angry because I pointed out your bias so obviously that you were embarrassed by it. Next time, ask yourself if there are members of your own group that are any different.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    To Wake and others wondering why gays and straight allies can come across as so obnoxious:

    For you, this is a debate. There are positions, evidence to support or refute those positions, and stances to be taken. There is a sort of code that says that those positions are fair game, but the people behind those positions are off-limits.*

    * - except when the debate is actually about them, which it is here.

    For gays, they feel like they are answering the question, "Why shouldn't I throw you to the lions?" When your persona, when the very desires that make you human are questioned, when you are not allowed to act on those desires, it becomes FAR more difficult to keep cool about it. An ill-timed comment from their side could well spurn an opponent of gay rights to take that much more action. In short, the stakes are extreme, and they are being forced to play this game shorthanded.

    I must emphasize that this is NOT simply two sides of one coin debating. The gross imbalance of reality in favor of one of the side's positions greatly frustrates the other side. And I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. We didn't create the laws of human nature. All we can do is explore, understand, and defend them.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bold: There is no evidence that those against SSM have that actually support them.
    Which is why I said, "For [them]."
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    other or no vote
    The homosexuals must learn respect and tolerance, the same as we must learn this.
    Do you mean that homosexuals are typically, on the whole, as bad as straights at respect and tolerance? This hasn't been my experience and I've had plenty of it.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
    "Traditional marriage" is not only a euphemism (which is typical of partisan politics) but is totally devoid of meaning. Heterosexual marriage has changed so many times, just in the history of this country alone, that to say "traditional marriage" doesn't mean anything other than a political talking point.

    Yes, I do believe that someone who opposes same-sex marriage (which is what "favoring 'traditional marriage'" really means) is inherently a homophobe. There are plenty of reasons for opposing SSM, but none of them are rational or logical. The only reason for opposing SSM is anti-gay bigotry, more commonly known as homophobia.

    If you are balking at my assertion, consider this: what would you think of someone who told you that they aren't racist, but oppose interracial marriage? Would you not consider them to not only be a racist, but a lying and cowardly racist at that?

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel17 View Post
    "Traditional marriage" is not only a euphemism (which is typical of partisan politics) but is totally devoid of meaning. Heterosexual marriage has changed so many times,
    How has "hetereosexual marriage changed so many times".
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    I voted no.. It doesn't make you bigoted to favor traditional marriage. It only makes you a bigot if you seperate homosexuals and take their rights away.
    Who's taking rights away that didn't exist in the first place.
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