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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    if not supporting gays makes them homphobes,do people calling them bigots get to be called bigotophobes?????????
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Gays really need to stop the vicious attacks on heterosexuals that dont agree with same sex marriage...it isnt doing you any good...this chikafil thing has gotten alot of peoples attention...at the Vfw yesterday they were talking about it...guys that were indiffernt to it said they are getting really pissed at constant ramming down your throat by gays...if your not careful your going to turn whatever momentum youve gained against you by being overbearing and obnoxious...now i know gays HATE to hear any criticism of anything they do or want...but hey im already the Villianous poster boy of the gay movement.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Personally I think the slurs "bigot" and "homophobe" are used by a few to slander those they disagree with. If a man or woman believes in traditional marriage, that it ought not be disturbed or manipulated, then I don't see how that person is somehow bad, or worse, evil. Personally I'm not sure where I stand anymore on this issue. While it's true that America isn't a nation that is run by the Church, there are also traditions like marriage that, if truly sacred, shouldn't be distorted. If marriage is between one man and one woman, then it should be that way, imo. A wise man once suggested to me that if you believe in something, you shouldn't cave in and change your mind for the sake of what's "popular," as if "popularity" really means much.

    Now, I wouldn't mind honestly discussing this issue meaningfully, from personal experience and opinion. I don't think calling people names will ever be a positive in debate, so it'd probably be wise to refrain from doing so.
    Last edited by Wake; 08-04-12 at 01:37 PM. Reason: "shouldn't" cave in

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Gays really need to stop the vicious attacks on heterosexuals that dont agree with same sex marriage...it isnt doing you any good...this chikafil thing has gotten alot of peoples attention...at the Vfw yesterday they were talking about it...guys that were indiffernt to it said they are getting really pissed at constant ramming down your throat by gays...if your not careful your going to turn whatever momentum youve gained against you by being overbearing and obnoxious...now i know gays HATE to hear any criticism of anything they do or want...but hey im already the Villianous poster boy of the gay movement.
    Poor homophobes gonna have their views of hatred challenged. Nope, can't have that. The right to defend one's ego is enshrined in the Constitution, right next to its only other two rights--the right to own any gun you want, and the right of states to do anything to the poor and minorities that they want.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Gays...
    Are you a fan of hasty generalizations? It is difficult to take people seriously when they lump an entire group of people in a single category.

    Is it possible that maybe most of the people who make "viscous attacks" against same sex marriage oppoenents are not actually gay?

    Maybe most gay people don't make such "vicious attacks". Maybe only a small minority of them do. Maybe you are judging an entire group of people based on the actions of just a few.

    Just a few "maybes" for you to consider when you make posts like the one above.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Poor homophobes gonna have their views of hatred challenged. Nope, can't have that. The right to defend one's ego is enshrined in the Constitution, right next to its only other two rights--the right to own any gun you want, and the right of states to do anything to the poor and minorities that they want.
    That's exactly what he's talking about. You can't debate the actual issues, so you resort to childish personal attacks. This is exactly why progress is taking longer than it should. If you have to resort to petty attacks, then simply shut up, and let those who can make reasoned, and well thought out arguments do the talking.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Did you happen to notice the results of this poll....Kind of make you shoveling **** against the tide.......
    WOW nobody intelligent thinks tht the results of this poll is reflective to who believes in equal rights LMAO
    ANother post where you make your self look silly.

    MANY posters here including myself voted no because a person simply saying they favor traditional marriage doenst make a person a bigot but they clearly support equal rights. LOL Only the most uneducated posters would think this poll means the people that voted no are all in favor of discrimination and against equal rights.

    im in favor of equal gay rights but that doesnt mean if a person says they favor traditional marriage they are a bigot. They issues are separate no matter how you try, and fail, to connect them.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Gays really need to stop the vicious attacks on heterosexuals that dont agree with same sex marriage...it isnt doing you any good...this chikafil thing has gotten alot of peoples attention...at the Vfw yesterday they were talking about it...guys that were indiffernt to it said they are getting really pissed at constant ramming down your throat by gays...if your not careful your going to turn whatever momentum youve gained against you by being overbearing and obnoxious...now i know gays HATE to hear any criticism of anything they do or want...but hey im already the Villianous poster boy of the gay movement.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    That's exactly what he's talking about. You can't debate the actual issues, so you resort to childish personal attacks. This is exactly why progress is taking longer than it should. If you have to resort to petty attacks, then simply shut up, and let those who can make reasoned, and well thought out arguments do the talking.
    I agree with this. Nothing hinders debate and discussion as much as petty attacks, negative behaviors, insinuations, etc.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    That's exactly what he's talking about. You can't debate the actual issues, so you resort to childish personal attacks. This is exactly why progress is taking longer than it should. If you have to resort to petty attacks, then simply shut up, and let those who can make reasoned, and well thought out arguments do the talking.
    Dude. You missed my point, which was dripping in sarcasm. If we're more concerned with some people's egos than we are with oppression of an entire group of people, then we have our priorities seriously mismatched. Free speech belongs to both sides, you know.
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