A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
1.) nobody attacked you that is a lie
2.) my side is winning the poll LMAO
I said if a person simply SAYS it or FAVORS it alone that does not make them a bigot and you thanked me for it in post #85
WOW, now please wipe the egg of your face because you are making youself look silly, I am doing nothing.
"In June of 2006, Senator Obama stated on the Senate floor that marriage was between one man and one woman. He spoke during the debate over a constitutional amendment on marriage and asserted his support for marriage as one man and one woman and his view that debating the issue was merely a distraction from the real issues."
Barack Obama on Gay Marriage
IF the 'man' in question, (classic NP to not say person but only concentrate only on men), limited his statement to just what he favors, and for HIMSELF, personally...
but rarely does someone confine themselves to just that simple statement. Seldom is any public figure stopping there. Gawd's wrath seems to get tossed in a lot. NOT favoring same sex marriage follows as often as flies after a garbage truck. Quite often some comments on how 'some study' claims gays cause gay kids (never mind millions of gay kids come from 'traditional' marriage )
Funny how 'rugged individuals' are quick to remind everyone they are part of the pack, when the pack agrees with them... not so much when they, like the cheese, stand alone.
Now to turn the concept on a different angle-
If a man says he favors same race marriage is he a racist?
The answer is the same to both...
Now while lots of folks love saying bigot as a hateful thing, it is what it is. most of us have people, places and things that cause discomfort due to a warped or unsubstantiated perceptions. Just watch people who are surrounded by loud foreign language speakers, note the body language and strained faces, (myself included)
However in typical NP fashion the word homophobe is tossed in for good measure, (thinking that is the word he wants to dwell on, by including it he pushes the responder to declare all those who 'favor' a highly positive word to be homophobic a very negative one. )
False linkage so he can rant about how mean 'liberals' are.
We are all bigoted and bias to in one fashion or another, but a select, very bitter few are homophobic.
The difference is easy to see, the true homophobic bitter folks Gawd had kicked in the shin so we can distinguish them as they walk up to us.
Nah. Simply favoring traditional marriage does not make someone a bigot. However, a good share of the people who do have belief are bigots and homophobes. Not because they support traditional marriage, but because they are against gay people in general.
AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.
- Colonel Paul YinglingNobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.
Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.
All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.