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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We oppose the redefining of marriage...
    We've been redefining it for 5000 years.

    Up until 200 years ago, the woman never had a say in it.

    Self-marriage was all the rage for a time.

    You should read this book.

    What does the "tradition of marriage" really look like? In A History of Marriage, Elizabeth Abbott paints an often surprising picture of this most public, yet most intimate, institution. Ritual of romance, or social obligation? Eternal bliss, or cult of domesticity? Abbott reveals a complex tradition that includes same-sex unions, arranged marriages, dowries, self-marriages, and child brides. Marriage—in all its loving, unloving, decadent, and impoverished manifestations—is revealed here through Abbott's infectious curiosity.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Do you remember what happens in next in the Bible? Well, first Lot offers his virgin daughters to the men of Sodom to do with what they want. Then, God turns Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for turning back to look at the burning city. So the newly widowed Lot takes refuge in a cave, where his virginal daughters get him drunk, rape him and have incestuous children by him.

    Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of all that.

    Tradition!!


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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The same old cop out.......Like I said there are experts on both sides of the issue and no one knows for sure...Like a typical liberal you say your right, as a Conservative I don't know but there are documented cases of people who were gay their whole life changing.....
    No, there really aren't. The overwhelming majority of experts have concluded it is definitely not a choice. Most of the remaining few have been discredited and don't even have a license to practice. Conversion therapy is recognized as psychologically harmful, to the extent that it can even cause suicide.

    Look, dude. I accept what the facts tell me. If being gay were a choice, it would make no difference to me. They would still deserve equal rights to officialize their relationship in the same manner straight people do.

    I don't care if it's a choice or not. I'm just pointing out the fact that it isn't.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    you are wrong for multiple reasons, the majority are in favor of equal gay rights and Traditional Marriage is a made up subjective term

    so you can say it, but its meaningless dishonest and inaccurate

    and where you are also wrong, I have seen you called those terms by people on the right also and if I was forced to bet, id bet they were accurate

    lets give you a test and please just answer and not deflect

    if you could vote tomorrow for equal gay rights would you vote yes or no in favor of it?
    if you had a son who was gay what would you do?
    if you had neighbors that were gay and you were having a block picnic would they be welcome?
    if you had gay neighbors with kids would you kids be allowed to play with theirs and sleep over?


    1. I would always vote for equal rights for all and I believe everyone has them.

    2. I would love him and hope and pray he might change as thousands have done and I would support any decision he makes.

    3. Of course in fact one of the guys on my Golf Team is gay (best golfer on the team a 3 handicap) His partner sadly died of AIDs and I went to his funeral....He this the marriage issue is mych ado about nothing.

    4. Of the gays I know of course...........
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    you are wrong for multiple reasons, the majority are in favor of equal gay rights and Traditional Marriage is a made up subjective term

    so you can say it, but its meaningless dishonest and inaccurate

    and where you are also wrong, I have seen you called those terms by people on the right also and if I was forced to bet, id bet they were accurate

    lets give you a test and please just answer and not deflect

    if you could vote tomorrow for equal gay rights would you vote yes or no in favor of it?
    if you had a son who was gay what would you do?
    if you had neighbors that were gay and you were having a block picnic would they be welcome?
    if you had gay neighbors with kids would you kids be allowed to play with theirs and sleep over?
    There are now 6 states and DC in the USA that allow SSM, and there are 3 countries in the entire world that allow SSM, so it is not nearly as "popular" as the loud and proud crew claim. If it is deemed fair, just and popular it will easily be made the law in your state SOON, no need to get worked up over it. It took decades and constitutional amendments for many social changes to take hold in this nation; one must be patient grasshopper. ;-)
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    It's probably been said before, but until a gay gene is discovered I can't accept that biologically people are born gay. There needs to be factually unshakeable scientific data.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    I have to say I am pleasantly surprised by the results of the poll thus far...........22-4 one anonymous is impressive........Kind of restore your faith a little.............
    Last edited by Navy Pride; 08-02-12 at 07:53 PM.
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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
    I'm on the left and I can't jump to that conclusion without knowing the person... I voted 'NO"


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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Poorly worded question. I don't favor the Westboro Baptist Church's celebration of dead soldiers, but that doesn't mean I want to make that action illegal.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There are now 6 states and DC in the USA that allow SSM, and there are 3 countries in the entire world that allow SSM, so it is not nearly as "popular" as the loud and proud crew claim. If it is deemed fair, just and popular it will easily be made the law in your state SOON, no need to get worked up over it. It took decades and constitutional amendments for many social changes to take hold in this nation; one must be patient grasshopper. ;-)
    I might add no state where a vote of the people was taken has approved gay marriage.......It is always activist liberal judges that do it
    Last edited by Navy Pride; 08-02-12 at 07:57 PM.
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