I am conservative and I think it is correct
I am conservative and I think it is wrong
I am a conservative and I do not know or am abivelant
I am a liberal and I think it is correct
I am a liberal and I think it is wrong
I am a liberal and I do not know or am abilvelant
No place else to hold the ceremony is a good dodge, there is the gym, the sports stadium, the Armory- our school just held it on a flat football practice field.
I firmly believe that if the graduation had been held in a Mosque a different poster would have asked if holding a graduation surrounded by the trappings of the religion 'responsible' for 9-11 is treason, liberal brainwashing, a slap in the face of 'traditional 'Merican values', yet another example of the War on Christianity.
How much you want to bet a nickle?
I'll bet a separatist Texas nickle there was a number of places from the gym to the NG armory where the graduation could be held. I doubt there was some 'sinister' plan to convert atheists to Christianity, more like someone throwing their church a good hall rental fee as I doubt the Church held the graduation for free.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
If seeing symbols of one religion or another is enough to shake someones faith, they are not strong in their faith. My children, at different times, have had the chance to go to services with their friends, and I always approve of it, as it let's them see what others believe and learn differences between different cults (as that's all any religion really is). That people fear what people might see or learn just by walking in a building is yet another part of what I consider to be root of so many of our modern day problems.
If you have delved into law at all, you would know that the constitution provides for the freedom OF religion, and that the 'separation of' is not part of it... the point the constitution makes is to give people the freedom to practice their religion, and to ensure the government does not establish a religion. None of which is being violated by holding a graduation in a church or mosque or temple.
Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger. ― Ron Paul
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. Thomas Jefferson
However, I can see how it can cause offense. I think it likely that the same people who are pleased as punch about it being a church would throw a fit if it were in a mosque. Just saying.
Lemon Test time. Remember, it has to satisfy all three criteria to pass.
I'm guessing they were just looking for a venue at a reasonable cost? If so, Pass.The government's action must have a secular legislative purpose;
That would have to be determined on a case-by-case basis. But if religion is advanced as a byproduct of the ceremony, and not the primary goal, then Pass.The government's action must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion;
This is probably going to be the biggest question of the three. What are the conditions of holding the ceremony in the church? Will ministers be speaking at all during the ceremony? Will any religious literature be available? Etc. If any of that happens, Fail. Otherwise, we'll talk.The government's action must not result in an "excessive government entanglement" with religion.
To all those posters who equated this with holding high school graduation in a Mosque. Thanks. I've seen the light. That would be completely unacceptable to me.
Thank you, Quazi!
I'd want to see why it was held there as opposed to somewhere else. But it's a building. That's all. Nothing religious was presented or encouraged. It may have been poor judgment, but it did not violate the First Amendment with the information presented.
"Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run
Mace Windu: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive.