View Poll Results: Is the republican party fraudulently/illegally forcing Romney to be the nominee?

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  • Yes - I believe voter fraud is rampant within the RP

    11 22.45%
  • No - Nothing illegal has taken place with the RP regarding Romney's nomination

    7 14.29%
  • Yes - I wear a tinfoil hat

    3 6.12%
  • No - I do not like Romney, but I believe he's won nomination legally

    13 26.53%
  • I did not vote for Romney, but I don't think anything illegal has helped him win nomination

    10 20.41%
  • I did vote for Romney, and I don't think anything illegal helped him win nomination

    2 4.08%
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    Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    It's been claimed here (DP) that voter fraud has run amuck within the Republican party.

    The claim is that Romney is not the popular favorite among the registered, voting republicans/conservatives.

    The claim is that some other candidate is actually much more popular, and has received more votes than Romney (or any other candidate), but that the republican party leaders have ignored and falsified votes in order to "plant" Romney as the victor.

    So my question to you Republicans/Conservatives is this:

    Has massive, nationwide voter fraud taken place during this election cycle with a focused effort on placing Romney as the winner at the expense of any and all other candidates?

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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    There is no voter fraud problem in the US. It doesn't exist on either side. Unethical behaviour by the parties? Sure. Voter fraud? No such thing.

    As far as you accusing Republicans of voter fraud goes.....

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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    The only significant voter fraud that happens within this country is not on the individual who is voting it is with the people who count/setup/maintain the machines that collect votes. So I said "other".
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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There is no voter fraud problem in the US. It doesn't exist on either side. Unethical behaviour by the parties? Sure. Voter fraud? No such thing.

    As far as you accusing Republicans of voter fraud goes.....

    I made no such accusation.

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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    The only significant voter fraud that happens within this country is not on the individual who is voting it is with the people who count/setup/maintain the machines that collect votes. So I said "other".
    Isn't that what I asked?

    Is the leadership of the republican party committing illegal voter fraud in order to get Romney nominated?

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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    It's been claimed here (DP) that voter fraud has run amuck within the Republican party.

    The claim is that Romney is not the popular favorite among the registered, voting republicans/conservatives.

    The claim is that some other candidate is actually much more popular, and has received more votes than Romney (or any other candidate), but that the republican party leaders have ignored and falsified votes in order to "plant" Romney as the victor.

    So my question to you Republicans/Conservatives is this:

    Has massive, nationwide voter fraud taken place during this election cycle with a focused effort on placing Romney as the winner at the expense of any and all other candidates?
    Well if there is proof then we can say for certain, but it's not something I would find surprising. I'm sure that the party would like to control as much as possible and remove as much as it can influence from the People. The Party wants to do what's best for the Party and Party Power, not the People.
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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well if there is proof then we can say for certain, but it's not something I would find surprising. I'm sure that the party would like to control as much as possible and remove as much as it can influence from the People. The Party wants to do what's best for the Party and Party Power, not the People.
    So you're thinking a party, like the current republican party (or current democratic party for that matter), might pull a Penn State or Catholic Church kinda thing?

    You think they secretly do, and cover-up something that if discovered would ultimately completely tear them apart?

    Just curious how far you think the republicans would go. (Or democrats).

    The party was almost split with the Tea Party movement.

    How damaging do you think a nationwide, and highly illegal voter fraud scenario would be?

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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There is no voter fraud problem in the US. It doesn't exist on either side. Unethical behaviour by the parties? Sure. Voter fraud? No such thing.

    As far as you accusing Republicans of voter fraud goes.....

    Interesting. I don't know if you're just uninformed or if I'm wrong about what should be perceived as voter fraud. The republican party is supposed to deliver caucous results that represent what the people want. If GOP officials are pushing Romney, they are already violating party rules. If they suppress true vote counts and disallow or ignore participants because they do not support Romney, they are further violating party rules and I would call this voter fraud because they are delivering fixed results. How would you argue that this is not voter fraud ?

    ignoring and violating caucous rules................UNETHICAL

    Omitting the caucous results of several counties where Romney did not win.....VOTER FRAUD

    Postponing a caucous in a county where Romney is not expected to win, then refusing to accept the results a week later after the caucous was held because they missed the deadline...........UNETHICAL

    Rigging vote machines to flip votes for Romney.............VOTER FRAUD

    Refusing to count votes in front of everyone and refusing to allow anyone to watch as they secretly tallied the votes.........................UNETHICAL - BORDERLINE VOTER FRAUD

    Those barely scratch the surface....so much crap went on, but again, if none of this is voter fraud to you, then what is??

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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Isn't that what I asked?

    Is the leadership of the republican party committing illegal voter fraud in order to get Romney nominated?
    He's saying yes, but wants to clarify that it's perpetrated by the establishment, not the voters themselves.

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    Re: Nationwide Voter Fraud Within Republican Party - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So you're thinking a party, like the current republican party (or current democratic party for that matter), might pull a Penn State or Catholic Church kinda thing?

    You think they secretly do, and cover-up something that if discovered would ultimately completely tear them apart?

    Just curious how far you think the republicans would go. (Or democrats).

    The party was almost split with the Tea Party movement.

    How damaging do you think a nationwide, and highly illegal voter fraud scenario would be?
    I wouldn't be surprised to see the parties go to extraordinary lengths to ensure their dominance and power. If they're smart, they won't make it in a way in which the party itself would be torn apart. The "best" way would be some oligarchy of the Republicans and Democrats where in they skew laws and regulations to discourage political competition, ensure party loyalty of the people elected through similar means, and do so in a way that if anything is ever discovered both sides can point fingers at the other. That way you keep the party structure alive. "It wasn't us! It was the Democrats!" and vice versa. And by "best", I do not mean best for the Republic, but best for the party structure.

    How damaging would highly illegal voter fraud be? Aggregated to large enough levels, it will completely cut the People out of the system and produce unrestrained government free to expand itself at its leisure.
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